A question concerning water purity, hydrogen bond angle ???

Question

For some time, a company named John Ellis ( www.johnellis.com ) has had a full page advertisement in Popular Science concerning their machine that produces miraculous water. It is much touted by many Dr.'s, and claims to have a hydrogen bond angle of 114 degrees, compared to regular water's 104 degree hydrogen bond angle... I have no expertise in this area, but am anxious to know if Dr.'s are indeed impressed by this machine. What exactly is a "hydrogen bond angle", and how does it concern me ??? I have visited their site, and still do not understand the information. If you could help me understand, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks, guys, for the explanations. I must admit, I suspected that it was more than my inability to comprehend the information. Just human nature to hope for miracles, I guess.....

Answer 1

I have to choose my words carefully because there are laws about libel.

There is no way in which you can miraculously change the bond angle of water. I would want to know a lot more about the doctors who are supposed to be endorsing this strange substance.

As you probably know, water has the formula H2O. Each hydrogen is bonded to oxygen, so that there is an angle between these two bonds. This is the "hydrogen bond angle" that you are talking about, and it takes to value it does because the very fundamental features of the nature of chemical bonding.

Sometimes it is not possible to understand something, not because you are stupid, but because it is nonsense. I have not visited this site, but my views on any claim to alter the bond angle of water should be clear enough.

Answer 2

Bond Angle Of Water

Answer 3

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A question concerning water purity, hydrogen bond angle ???
For some time, a company named John Ellis ( www.johnellis.com ) has had a full page advertisement in Popular Science concerning their machine that produces miraculous water. It is much touted by many Dr.'s, and claims to have a hydrogen bond angle of 114 degrees, compared to regular water's...

Answer 4

Intermolecular forces, such as hydrogen bonding, make a substance more resistant to change in state. Hydrogen bonds are fairly powerful intermolecular bonds, and this is particular profound due to it's relatively low molecular mass. Hydrogen bondings occur when a hydrogen is bonded to an electronegative atom (in this case, oxygen) and then intermolecularly bonds with another such atom. I am not really an expert on this, only just covered it in university chem.

Answer 5

This is one of numerous hoaxes together with "charged water","energized water", "H2O+", etc, where scientifically-sound blab is presented as a real thing.
I have listed a link for detailed description of water molecule and hydrogen bonding in particular. In short, main angle between two H-O bonds in HOH is 104.5deg (in gas phase) or 105.5deg (in liquid water). Water molecules form network of hydrogen bonds between each other in liquid state, where oxygen atom of one water molecule forms two relatively weak bonds with hydrogens of two other water molecules: H2O--H-OH (only one bond is shown here for simplicity of representation). These bonds called hydrogen bonds and all three atoms participating in the bonding should lie in one line (or close to it). So, hydrogen bonding angle should be around 180deg. If the angle is below 150deg, then hydrogen bond brakes. So, no 114deg hydrogen bond angle can exist even in theory. Main water angle is even less likely to deviate from 105deg to 114deg under conditions of human consumption.
There is a possibility for the main angle to deviate singnificantly from its standard value when water is so called "excited" by laser or strong electromagnetic radiation (hard UV). But this excitation disappears within fraction of a second once the laser is turned off (water molecule relaxes into its ground state).
The best case scenario - they sell just a UV-lamp in a box that disinfects water, but more likely it is just very expensive kettle.

Answer 6

Although a device is available with a UV feature the basic simplex distillation unit distills an initial finite charge of water multipile, multipile times (process replication) over a period of X hours.