the reduction in mens worth....debatable?

Question

Would you agree that these days men are getting more and mo irresponsible and childish compared to the earlier generation of men.
Its all abt playstations/music etc, less abt jobs/security/maturity
hence younger women marry men who are way older cos theiragemates just dont cut it.

Oh, no saying it depends on the guy...give a percentage of agreeing/disagreeing with the above.
Am speaking from experience, met many immature men from 23-30yrs if age..

women love older guys cos of their maturity, dont think these younger men shouyld be forced into maturity, its pathjetic, it shud just be a decision they make to be responsible.
recently men have lost that gentlemen touch which now only the older more cultured men posses. True or false?

josh and jing, Im glad there still are real men and from what u said u are them...hope u raise ur sons like them, wudnt want my future daughters to land with sum weak/modernised guy,
and Impouti, hope dats ur name, u are really very blessed w ur man, I think a larger age difference is best, cos these days men...
now how will i chose a best answer btwn the three of u...difficult!!!

Answer 1

Single mothers trying to raise men end up raising sissies. Men raise men... men are full of testosterone and tend to be rough on the edges but make great providers. I know lots and lots of guys and only a few men left. I can cook a gourmet meal and like to dance but I'll snap the spine of anyone who tries to harm my family. Hitting a girl in my presence is suicidal. Men are just hard to find these days. It's not about age exactly but about a feminification of the social structure. We over did the feminist movement.
I've got no problem with women in any role they choose but the society has developed a lopsided view of the value of the feminine perspective. Women teach us not to hit but when a man is rude to a woman then maybe he needs a good punch in the nose. A strong father will thrust his child into the world by force if need be. A dominant mother will let her 30 yr old live in the basement cause she wants her family to be safe at home. Balance is the key here. Gender roles evolved for reasons, lets not over correct.

Answer 2

I believe modern society has affected men in numerous ways.
The taking away of discipline from the schools and from the family through societal pressure and legislation has to top the list of reasons.
Then we have all the modern influences on boys...Music, films and computer games. Much of this encourages rebellion, individualism (I mean that in the bad way of being in your own company for hours on end). Stirring the ‘cool to be an idiot culture’ that is so prevalent in today’s youth.
It seems that nearly all (if not all) TV Soaps and television programmes have, for decades, fed it's viewers on a daily diet of ‘if the man is not gay, then he is either a bungling idiot or an insecure drunk and weak". This has been going on at least since the 80’s. This constant TV flow that people spend watching hour after hour, year after year must have an outcome on their sub conscious. The media affects us far more than we realise, especially on youngsters. If that was not the case why does Coke spend one billion on advertising each year?

There are many fine and well brought up children who do not have a father figure in their life. However we have had now 2-3 whole generations brought up without any father figure. Sometimes the only man around, is the current boyfriend, no real bond and that man will find it difficult to really have any fatherly authority and respect FROM the child, long-term, in that situation. I used to be terrified when my mum would say ‘I am going to tell dad’, I was still no angel, but I knew there were definite boundaries and just those six words alone kept me in check.
I used to love going for a 5 mile jog with my dad, we did it for years, through the forest looking for deer ect,, chatting most of the time, three times a week we did it.. A lot of boys these days have none of that help and security that a good father brings.

All this is tragic, not just for boys, but for girls too. In my experience girls do not want some wishy washy man, they want a man... a strong man. History and common sense shows that society needs men for all kind of reasons. If we see past the individualism and selfishness of today we see that both sexes are losers in today’s political correctness.

Any way I’ve gone off your subject a little but that’s my view.
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Answer 3

No, people don't really change like that, what changes is the world around them.

Men haven't grown more immature, we've just not been forced to mature like we were in the past. In the past, life expectancies being lower, the world being harder, men were required to marry and lead families at an earlier age. They HAD to take responsibilities, wanted or not. Today, things are so easy, they can sit around and play, they can avoid real relationships. They remain children since they are not given a reason to grow up.

Meanwhile, women have been forced to mature (in some ways) faster, so the roles have in many ways been reversed by modern culture. Women are coerced into earlier sexual relationships and then left with the consequences. They are pressured to leave the home and do things on their own rather than stay in the protection of the family. They are told they are failures if they don't achieve equal to any man or if they marry too young. Society forces women to mature at a much earlier age than they had to before.

Both sides look different, but there has been no change in what makes people people, just what pressures are on the different genders.

Answer 4

Not sure, and it may be a very, very valid question.

See my post here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AsL2BT.5BxpYgLIg22omGNPsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20071119142329AAYNU6v

The man who I am so falling for is 13 years my senior, and he is like no one I have ever met. You may have a point, as now that I think about it, the older guys I have dated seemed to "take care of me more" than the younger.


*EDIT. Personally, I'd have to say 'true'. Not sure though what it can be attributed to though. I have a son, who although I tried to raise as a true gentleman, is not. He no longer says "yes ma'am/no ma'am", or "sir"; he does not open doors for elders or women unless reminded to do so. My BF of five months which I spoke about earlier and who I said was 13 yrs my sr., does EVERYTHING a gentleman should. In fact, a little embarrassingly, he wanted to wait to have secks! (We got over that pretty quickly :o)). He opens doors, waits until I start eating, pulls out my chair, puts his hand on my lower back when walking, or pulls me by the hand if in a heavy crowd, etc. I think it really is that the younger guys today just (for some reason) don't know HOW to do these things, or think that if they do, they will be labeled as funny or taken advantage of, or it could just be apathy. What a shame.

Really, really good question which has helped put things in perspective for me.

P.S.: NOTE for Yun, below.
I would tend to disagree. How do you explain the difference in MEN (not counting the difference in women) from years ago? Or, are yu saying that the changes in women have brought about these changes in men?

If anything, I think that the things you mention in your post do have validity in that sometimes the "men" of tomorrow are raised by women who can't seem to instill these things in them.

P.SS: AWESOME answers from both Josh and Jing.

Answer 5

I think that they are basically the same. With the introduction of today's technology the testosterone expended is not as noticeable as it used to be. Men are far more aware of taking care of their appearance now so you don't see as many unshaven guys around and most know what a deodorant is too. (same as most women now days) Women down the ages have always been attracted to older men ,the same way as older men will look for women who average 10 years younger than themselves. Men are still gorgeous and where would we be without them?

Answer 6

I think BOTH men and women's priorities have shifted quite a bit.