The Memorial Cup is the championship of the CHL which is Junior A Tier 1 hockey. The winners of the WHL, OHL, and QMJHL face off against one another.
The Frozen Four is the championship of the NCAA Division 1.
2007-11-20
07:00:19
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Some food for thought:
On the 2007 Canadian National Junior Team (Gold Medal) there were 19 CHL players and 3 NCAA players.
In the 2007 NHL entry draft 9 of the first 10 players were from the CHL.
You have to go all the way down to the 29th pick before the first NCAA player was selected. Some players like JVR played for the USA and not the NCAA.
2007-11-20
10:08:48 ·
update #1
Kyle Turris is a fantastik player. Drafted 3rd overall out of the British Columbia Hockey League (junior A Tier 2)
Eric Johnson is also great - drafted in 2006 (not 2007) off of the team USA development program (not NCAA).
2007-11-20
10:33:53 ·
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Michigan State! I mean... yeah.... nevermind.
I think we can all agree that NCAA hockey is the GREATEST SPORT EVER. And by "all" agree I mean "Me, Myself and I" agree. And maybe Ron Mason too.
Mr. Stiggo: College players don't get to play for Division I schools unless they eat, breathe and sleep hockey. And if we use your logic, a lot of college players come from places where "babies wear skates" anyway, like Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin, Canada and out East. So what's your point? That education makes a player inferior? Maybe you just need Matt Carle to beat you over the head with his Hobey.
COACH SCOTT: WTF is Kyle Turris? Chopped liver? Keep in mind that some players that get drafted STILL play NCAA hockey.
*cough* Erik Johnson *cough* 1st Overall *cough* Oh, excuse me.
Did you even read what I said? I said players that are drafted STILL play in the NCAA. It's the age gap, genius. And I KNOW Johnson was drafted in 2006 because he played "NCAA HOCKEY" for the Gophers last year and this year he left to play for the Blues who drafted him in 2006. And Turris plays "NCAA HOCKEY" for the Badgers this year. My point is there are players drafted early who play in the NCAA. Most players are too young to play college hockey when they are drafted.
Oh yeah. And JVR was only born in 1989, so he wouldn't have been old enough to play NCAA hockey last year. NOT HIS FAULT. But he plays for New Hampshire now.
Oh crap. Now I've gotten all mean again. Sorry Scott. :( I'm touchy about college hockey... if you didn't notice already.
2007-11-20 07:57:13
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answered by green 4
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Those who have answered the CHL are looking at it from the wrong perspective. Yes, the CHL still produces more NHL quality talent but in a game between the best CHL team and the best NCAA team the NCAA team would win a very high percentage.
A key difference is that the average college freshman is no longer 18 years old. Most players moving on to D-1 college hockey are playing 1-2 years of US junior hockey first which puts many of the seniors at 23-24 years old. The roster of a top NCAA program are going to have 50%+ NHL draft picks.
So as the others have stated, NCAA wins the vast majority of the games.
2007-11-20 11:37:57
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answered by Lubers25 7
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The Frozen Four champion, because of the simple fact that in major junior hockey the players are ages 16-20 and the teams are only allowed three 20-year-olds each, but in college the players are ALL ages 18-22 (college age). The college players will be bigger, more physically mature, and they'll probably have more experience in the sport than major juniors.
That's not saying anything at all against CHL players or teams. If you could "instant-age" a Memorial Cup championship team (this year, that would be the Vancouver Giants) so that they were all college-age, **then** they would beat the Frozen Four champ.
2007-11-20 10:04:09
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answered by Navigator 7
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Uh, no. The NCAA title is the championship of NCAA Division 1 hockey. The Frozen Four is just the name they use for the last four teams.
Anyways, I'd be hard pressed not to choose the Memorial Cup champions, since those guys are very talented. But age could play a factor, which would benefit the NCAA team, due to the age limit in junoirs.
2007-11-20 11:42:51
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answered by trombass08 6
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In the late 70s and very early 80s, these two teams met in the following fall (before the NCAA decided that the CHL was a bad entity) , and almost every time the NCAA team won (I can recall the 1976 Hamilton/St. Kitt's Fincups winning and New Westmisnter always losing).
Things haven't changed all that much since then so I'm going to go with Frozen 4 champion
- players are older and more mature
- tend to play better as a team (the average career in the CHL is 1.6 yrs, in the NCAA, 3.7)
2007-11-20 07:20:26
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answered by Like I'm Telling You Who I A 7
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answered by ? 4
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I've played in the Memorial Cup, and I've played against NCAA competition...............we lost.
After seeing this question, I called a friend at Wisconsin (where I got my Ph.D) and he looked up something
Between 1960 and 1982 (when the NCAA declared the CHL 'professional')
210 games took place between NCAA Division I and Major Junior Teams
NCAA won 153 lost 29 tied 28
Since 1982, 31 such games have taken place
The NCAA has won 21 lost 3 tied 7
So, through 241 games between NCAA Division I teams and CHL teams, the NCAA has won 174 games, lost 32, and tied 35
I'm going with the NCAA here
2007-11-20 07:37:29
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answered by Canadian Biology Man 4
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Memorial Cup
2007-11-20 07:02:57
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answered by dionysis96 2
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Memorial Cup. These are teams made up of guys who have done nothing but play hockey their entire lives. Down here, our babies wear booties. Up in hockey country, they wear skates. They wouldn't have time to do something as silly as attend college like those Frozen Four guys.
2007-11-20 07:21:48
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answered by Anonymous
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Frozen 4
2007-11-20 07:05:15
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answered by baseballboy6720 2
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