does anyone consider the eroica symphony a romantic piece of music?

Question

i know it`s not but with the way it`s written i cant help but thonk that it is romantic with the opening chords and the way the oepning movement is written and develops and the 3rd movemtn is quite romantic as well dont know why

just wondering what others think

Answer 1

The Eroica was the largest and most ambitious symphony to have been written at that time. Imagine the effect it must have had in 1805 when people were used to a diet of Mozart and Haydn.

Although formally and structurally quite traditionally Classical, thematically and harmonically the Eroica was staggeringly advanced. It might not seem that way to us now but some of the harmonies, progressions and dissonances in the Eroica must have seemed like madness in 1805.

As Malcolm rightly says, the Eroica was originally dedicated to Napolean Bonaparte, whom Beethoven first thought represented the interests and aspirations of the common people - until, that is, he had himself proclaimed emperor and could be seen for the megalomanic imperialist dictator he was. Beethoven scrubbed out the dedication to Napolean on the title page of the manuscript score so fiercely that the scuff and tear marks can be clearly seen to this day.

For a symphony to have such a grand sweep and 'Romantic' subject must surely make the Eroica the first prototype Romantic Symphony, albeit still rooted in Classicism.

One can never answer these Beethoven questions satisfactorily, so much on the cusp was he between two great musical eras.

Answer 2

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Answer 3

You might say that the Eroica foreshadows the romantic development of Beethoven's later works. Even the concept under which the work is written has intrinsic romantic ideas. The work is dedicated to a heroic figure. Originally the work was to be dedicated to Napoleon, who turned into a petty dictator (in Beethoven's eyes) and so the music was re-dedicated to the memory of heroic man.
Stylistically, it shows distinct romantic leanings.
So I guess you are right!

Answer 4

I guess I can see what you mean. I could buy it as an "on its way to romanticism" piece of music, primarily in the irregular phrase lengths and phrase extensions in the first movement.

But overall, the form and structure of the piece is pretty traditional. Yeah, yeah, new theme in the development...ok, you got me there. (although I wouldn't be at all surprised if that had precedents in Haydn)