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I think the educational systems are completely messed up. You can't get a good paying job unless you go to college, and you cant get into a good college without making good grades in high school. Most high school students are completely ignorant to supporting themselves and making a living, they have no idea how hard it is, yet they're expected to do well in high school or their live is going to be a complete nightmare. All this responsiblity lays in the student's hands, someone who isn't even responsible enough to consume alcohol! Why is that much responsibility put on a child?

2007-11-19 19:23:13 · 18 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Law & Ethics

I'm not sure if this is the right catagory to place this in, but I thought you guys would be smart and come up with some good answers.

2007-11-19 19:25:01 · update #1

Do you think you can get a high paying job, even if you did crappy in high school?

2007-11-19 19:26:44 · update #2

18 answers

The probability may be higher.... but people are in control of thier own destiny. I would agree the sooner you get your act together the better, but it is never too late to change.

My older brother barely graduated high school, worked a crummy job for 15 years, got laid off, and wound up graduating nursing school with highest honors. He is now a making a good living as a surgical nurse.

2007-11-19 19:34:39 · answer #1 · answered by trooper3316 7 · 3 0

*School is messed up. The department of education is a 62,500 Million dollar annual waste. Seriously.

First off, schools teach the wrong thing. From 9th grade on up,there needs to be basic FINANCE classes. Teaching the basics about bills, and income, and tax, and investing.

Sounds hard, but it would be easy to implement a 20 minute per week class on these issues. Have students keep a diary of living costs (made up) for their entire duration at school.

Too many get out on their own and are overwhelmed by costs, interest, and have no idea about investing and personal finance.

That said

NO, you DON'T need college for a DECENT paying job. You will however need some certification thru secondary courses. Shorter than college, but cost money.

BUT, if you want a 50 to 100 k a year job, you must go to college. That said, call your local college today and request information. Be persistent. The sooner you start the better. Ask as many questions as you need.

You are only getting older.

2007-11-19 19:35:45 · answer #2 · answered by vote_usa_first 7 · 4 1

Yes, of course people's lives are directly affected by high school efforts. As soon as high school is over people enter the real world - working, getting married, having kids, continuing their education, etc. The natural course of life consists of actions and consequences. What occurs now shapes what is going to happen tomorrow.

I don't know that it is right to think that people aged 13-18 should not have responsibility placed on them. All people have responsibilities, that is what life presents us. Just a bit more than a century ago, it was people of those ages who were getting married, having children, working, raising families, going to war, etc. In some countries, people at those ages still deal with those issues. So it becomes apparent that it is not a matter of age being a barrier to responsibility, as throughout human history people in their teen years have indeed shown a great ability to be responsible and mature.

The continuing lack of responsibility in teenagers is a societal effect, and one which can be bettered by increased discipline and education. The solution is not to remove responsibility from teens - that is just an excuse, and in essence, an injustice to them - but rather to show them how to be more responsible.

Teenagers have the opportunity to do very well. Everything is offered for the taking. They can be successful in school, they can join countless organizations, they can volunteer, they can work. And they can generally do it all with much support and the safety of knowing that should they make mistakes, people are there to catch them and get them back on the right track - family, teachers, churches, youth organizations, etc, are all at the disposal of teenagers.

Many high school students are ignorant. Removing responsibility from them is only going to make that situation worse. They need to be prepared for the future, not shielded from it.

Additionally...

It is possible to recover from failures, but it definitely takes more effort. If someone has done poorly in school, then it will quite likely take longer for a person to "catch up", so to speak. High quality universities may not be an option, but there are always community colleges and other ways of obtaining a continuing education. Not all jobs require a full college degree, either. Some merely require certain specialized training, or a great personality, or a keen sense of knowledge in one particular area. So while it is definitely important to do well in high school - it will make it easier to continue through the next steps in life - doing badly doesn't mean the end of the world. It just means one has to try harder to improve oneself.

2007-11-19 19:39:14 · answer #3 · answered by raindreamer 5 · 1 1

I feel that if I don't get a college education and start earning some degrees, then I'm not going earn a high paying career to support myself (mainly because that's what society wants in these times... i think)... but in high school I really messed up and I'm still carrying the bad habits of slacking off and falling behind... though as long as you learn a trade early on, you can make a career out of it... but I think all young generations think they can do anything they want, and rather get things handed to them, be a celebrity and look pretty, instead of taking a more time challenging path of getting an education... but high school isn't even difficult at all, sure there are lots of classes required to take, but as long as the work is done, and the reading is done, then there shouldn't be any worrying to do... so it all depends on the persons, because they're all raised differently, born in different environments, different parents, et cetera et cetera....

2007-11-20 12:01:18 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

At one point I taught HS and above all other things, I wanted the kids to develpe the right attitudes. That basically means, show up on time, do the best you can, realize that what comes out of your labor and time is variable and that when your hot your hot and when your not, you're not.

I have used this understanding in my own life to good outcome. Sometimes you can try too hard. Work too fast and be smashed on the rocks because you were not balanced.
You gotta feel your way through, give it your best and know the outcome will be ultimately a good thing for you in outcome over the years. Never quit.
As crazy as it sounds, the most important thing of all, seems to be just to SHOW UP! So many people quit before they even get there!

Kids these days don't get that kind of orientation from what I can tell and they seem very lost. It's not rocket science what I tried to offer. In many cases it carried kids a long way I'm proud to say.

2007-11-19 19:59:41 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Yes, the system IS messed up and so is the education system along with society.

Although, there are CEO of companies and multi-millionaire's who became rich without a high school diploma or college education - it is VERY rare. Most people who earn a decent salary has received some level of education. It is messed up that not everyone is given a "fair" chance. There are certain underlying problems in society and the education system as a huge "responsibility" on teenagers to do well. However, if YOU wanted to be successful, then YOU would work hard. Education is important.

2007-11-19 19:55:48 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

honestly it depends on each individual because for most if you do crappy in high school its gonna hurt your chances of getting into college through a scholarship , but their is always loans and grants you can try for , and the only job you can really get is fast food. but for others they have connections so they dont care how they do in high school at all because they know that as long as they have a diploma they can work with thier dad or mom or uncle some where, but honestly they put the responsibility on ya because some idiot decided that in high school your supposed to grow up enough to understand that your planning for your future. But i know when i was in high school that was far from the truth we were just trying to get through the day so when the bell rang we were off to go have some fun.either way it all depends on each students situation no matter what so its gonna be a hard one to answer and get it all correct , hope this helps

2007-11-19 21:25:04 · answer #7 · answered by christina j 2 · 0 1

Sure high school is a stepping stone for success. Keeping good study habits, being organized, on time, polite to other students and staff is part of being a good person. Actually high school students are not children-they are young adults. People need responsibilities otherwise their minds will turn into mush!

2007-11-19 19:36:48 · answer #8 · answered by missesb 1 · 1 1

I didn't do so great at school and the teachers didn't do anything to help or encourage me! (Though I did finish year 12 which has helped me get jobs). I did not even begin to think that my efforts in high school would have to support myself or make a living. (That took many more years after high school to realise it was all about me!)

I am doing very well for myself now (Plus am a single mother with no support or help from her father.)
I have done further study, so now am qualified in my choosen career plus I learnt a lot from my previous positions!

Mind you, though I did not do well, I do expect my daughter to do well as I have higher expectations for her than I did for myself as even though I am okay now, it has been a small struggle. She will be going to a private high school as it seems now days that you have to "pay" for an education. (I have looked at many public schools in my area and though good for me, I feel they are not good enough for my daughter!)
At the moment she plans to go to uni to study after she has finished school, but I know that is many years away so will not hold her to it!

I do think it is unrealistic for 15-17 year olds to decide what they plan to do with the rest of their lives.

2007-11-19 19:51:53 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Thankfully some teachers do require more of their students, and expect the children to contribute to their education, because the world will not wait for them to grow up before it begins attacking them with responsibility and consequences for poor decisions.

Our cushy society that loves to protect our children from every bump and bruise, does not in fact hep them to become better and more responsible adults. It makes them weak and dependent upon a government that would use them. It does not prepare them for any of life's hardships which will be a cold shock to their systems when they do finally have to stand on their own...which is much sooner than they might expect.

2007-11-19 19:30:40 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

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