Could I get a HELL NO! Kobe jocking MJ haters tries their best to excuse Kobe's FAILURE without Shaq by bringing up MJ's seasons without Pippen. But they always FAIL to bring up the REALITY in it! Check this out:
Michael Jordan without Pippen v.s. Kobe Bryant without Shaq:
Kobe Bryant:
When Shaq left in the summer of 2004 Kobe was an 8 year VET: He's played 8 seasons to learn from NBA Legends (Shaq, Byron Scott, & etc.), he's had been learning from Phil Jackson for 5 seasons, he's had PLENTY of NBA Finals experience, & he is well in his PRIME.
Michael Jordan:
1985 MJ was a ROOKIE coming from college EARLY (but still made the play-offs)
1986 MJ only played 18 games (not even close to a full-season)
1987 MJ is actually a 2nd year rookie (his 2nd full season but still made the play-offs)
2001-02 MJ was 38-39 years old, washed up, & missed 22 games. (but still were setting scoring records)
2002-03 MJ was 39-40 years old & washed up even more.
To Be Continued:
2007-11-19 09:37:21 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports ➔ Basketball
Anyways, when you are comparing MJ without Pippen to Kobe without Shaq, you are comparing a 1st & 2nd year rookie that left college early, that didn't have a great coach, that was still learning the game of NBA Basketball to a 9, 10, 11 year vet with that played 8 seasons playing & learning with vets, 5 seasons leanring from a great coach, has had major NBA Finals experiance, & well in his PRIME. MJ without Pippen was very young still developing & very old way pasted his prime, Kobe is in his prime & has had plenty experience.
Now is that a FAIR to COMPARE?
NO!
KOBE BRYANT SUCKS!
MICHAEL JORDAN IS THE GREATEST!
2007-11-19 09:44:39 · update #1
lil balla,
you're a bigger IDIOT then I thought! You are really going to compare a NBA vet that's in his prime to a 1st , 2nd year rookie & a 38-40 year OLD man!....lmao! You Kobe jockers are PATHETIC!
KOBE BRYANT SUCKS!
2007-11-19 09:47:56 · update #2
sammy 55,
that was an HONEST mistake! As you can see that I spelled it right in my debate. That was a typo era.
2007-11-19 09:51:52 · update #3
Alpha Wuss,
there you are LYING again! Kobe without Shaq is ages 26-29 with 8 NBA seasons under his belt & MJ without Pippen is 21-24 with NO NBA seasons under his belt. What a MORON you are? Would you compare Kobe to Durant or Kobe to Magic in 1996? Only a IDIOT would think that's fair!
ALPHA WOLF IS AN IDOT!
2007-11-19 11:03:59 · update #4
Alpha Wuss,
look who Kobe & Magic had (Shaq & Kareem)? ......Lol. No wonder they won NBA Titles early! What dominate center Jordan had at 21-24?
ALPHA WUSS IS AN IDIOT!
Jordan at 19 was winning a TITLE at NC
Kobe at 19 was RIDING the bench!
KOBE BRYANT SUCKS!
2 ez
AROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
2007-11-20 07:07:00 · update #5
Jordan has a keen sense of putting the ball in the hoop by any means necessary as well as making the highly improbable look easy. It should be noted that Jordan played in the best defensive era in NBA history, which is largely due to the lack of sensitivity when calling fouls.
In respect to Bryant he has accomplished feats Jordan never did. The first is the 81-point performance Bryant made in a single game. Jordan's closest game to that only left him with 69 points. The other remarkable achievement occurred when Bryant scored at least 50 points in four straight games. Throughout Jordan's illustrious career, he never reached this number. Although, Jordan did score at least 50 points in three straight games on multiple occasions.
Bryant does have those two statistical marks over MJ but unfortunately for him, there are not too many more he excels at over Jordan. Jordan averaged more points, assists, rebounds, steals and blocks throughout his career than Bryant has in his career.
Jordan's playoff numbers exceed Kobe's as well. Nobody has outscored Jordan in the playoffs, considering his average for points per game is higher than every other player in NBA history. Also, Jordan holds the record for the highest points per game average in a single playoff series as well as for the NBA Finals.
Many Jordan backers argue that Bryant never could win without Shaq, while Bryant fans state that Jordan never won without Pippen. However, most people fail to remember the NBA title won in 1998 by Jordan and the Bulls. Why this championship was so special is because Scottie Pippen, Jordan's Robin, remained injured due to his back throughout the entirety of the playoffs. This caused MJ to put the team on his back and lead the Bulls to another title ultimately by himself, something Bryant has yet to do. Also, a key example of Bryant's failure to finish off in the NBA Finals was in 2004 when he had an ensemble of four future hall-of-famers in the starting lineup. In attempts to take over, Bryant took multiple unadvised shots as he got shut down by Tayshaun Prince and the Pistons. The Detroit Pistons dominated the series, winning four games to one.
Jordan won every single NBA Finals series he played in. Not once did he get shut down when it mattered the most.
If you look at Bryant and the Lakers' recent struggles, the first impression would be that Bryant has no support to help him win. However, if you take a closer look, Bryant is going through a similar phase Jordan did early on in his career. In both cases, both players scored spectacular amounts without getting their teammates involved. The difference between the two situations is that Jordan went through this phase in an immature stage of his career. Bryant is currently in his prime with less time to make a fix.
In fact, Jordan's latest stint in the NBA took place when he was 40 years old, plenty of time past his prime. During this time, it is arguable that Jordan had less support than Bryant did this past year. Each team finished with a final regular season record of 42-40. If Jordan can pull out the same amount of wins at the age of 40 as Bryant can during his prime, Bryant's ability to get his teammates involved should be seriously questioned.
http://media.www.duclarion.com/media/storage/paper481/news/2007/05/22/Sports/Greatest.Michael.Jordan.Or.Kobe.Bryant-2906535.shtml
Hope this helps.
2007-11-19 14:42:12 · answer #1 · answered by Darth Revan 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
A simple answer to this question: No.
A dominant center like Shaq doesn't come along very often. Are there any centers that made an impact that Shaq did on both sides of the ball? No.
Scottie Pippen was the sh!t. But players like him in the NBA are a dime a dozen....easily replaceable.
Shaq's impact on a game makes everyone from the 1 to the 4 better......not true of Pippen
I'll let you guys draw your own conclusions re: Kobe @ MJ...
2007-11-19 10:09:26 · answer #2 · answered by rastabudd 4 · 3⤊ 2⤋
What the Alpha Wolf Kobe won because Shaq dominated and the Lakers got rid of Shaq because he was out of his prime, MJ is way better than Kobe, he's THE BESTof all time
2016-04-04 23:01:15 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
JORDAN Was An NCAA Champion at 19,
and Rookie of the year in NBA.
During his first season, Bryant mostly came off the bench behind guards Eddie Jones and Nick Van Exel.
JORDAN won all the Finals MVPs,
SHAQ won all the Finals MVPs,
Why compare Kobe to SHAQ.
KOBE is not SUCCESSFUL without SHAQ!
KOBE IS SUCKSESSFULL without SHAQ!
2007-11-19 10:35:44 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
dude please hop off of Michael's nuts. You're literally choking on them. Mike played more seasons with Pippen and got his championships. Kobe played with Shaq less seasons as a younger player and got 3 rings. You gotta admit, without Pippen, MJ would've never gotten a ring, just like Kobe without Shaq. Lol, this muthfucka even spelled "fair" wrong. Lmao, wow, are you like 5?
2007-11-19 10:35:55 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
Comparing Kobe to MJ is like drag racing a 68 VW Bug against a Dodge Viper.
MJ could truly carry a bad team by himself.
Kobe can't.
2007-11-19 09:41:02 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 4⤋
no and I'm with you on this one Kobe sucks Michael Jordan is the Greatest note I'm a hardcore Michael Jordan fan up until now
2007-11-19 10:24:55 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
ei KING whatever ur name is...
if ur bringing this up, are u telling me that LeBRON JAMES is better than MJ??? man this player out of high school without any coll exp. jumps into nba and his early career already made it to NBA FINALS.
just a thought. ^_^
2007-11-19 12:33:01 · answer #8 · answered by dude_27 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
you'd have to compare shaq to pippen. as great as pippen was, he's no shaq prime.
2007-11-19 15:09:25 · answer #9 · answered by m33p0 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I wit you on that, HELL NAW!!! Shaq was the most dominate player in the game when healthy and Pippen was good, but HELL NAW!!!
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2007-11-19 09:41:19 · answer #10 · answered by Leff_NutZ 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋