Was World War 2 A Waste Of Time (and lifes) Us Winning?

Question

We seem to have to follow European Laws so much now, and we have even given up the right to EVER bring back the death penalty.

We can only sell banana's at a certain size, our criminals get compensation for not getting what they want in prison.

Didn't our fathers and grandfathers offer their lives to keep Great Britain as we want it, and not to what I see, as a place where children can not walk safely in the streets.

Do you think that we should completely separate ourselves now from Europe completely?

Obviously I dont mean to say that we should all now be nazi's

well said michele s

Answer 1

the war was thought because of a mad dictator threatening the stability of a quite fragile Europe - only twenty years after the first world war...........

it is not just Europe that is making Britain a challenging place to live - rather short sighted immigration policies in the seventies - allowing minority groups to become too large while being courted by political leaders to gather support....

some of these groups are the reason for many ills in modern Britain - some want an easy life and are attracted to get rich quick 'gangsta' lives and the others are wanting to hold the country to ransom with threats of terrorist violence if they are not granted even more concessions.......

Europe has been a cause of many stupid regulations but our real problems are much closer to home.........

Answer 2

I agree in part with what you are saying Paul but we as a nation have only ourselves to blame, if enough of the voting public had called for a proper referendum or voted for a less EEC loving party things may have been different. We can still back track as has been done with selling groceries by using both weights, mainly due to the outcry by green grocers. Although petrol will not be sold again in gallons as too many people would realise how expensive it has become.
The death penalty in the UK was abolished for murder in 1965, the UK will not even extradite criminals to America if they could face the death penalty, we have an agreement under the new extradition treaty with. The death penalty was abolished for murder because of the mistakes that had been made in the past, it was final and some of the executed may have been innocent or guilty to a lesser degree and should not have been executed, public opinion was such that it was abolished. I am sure that if the enough people wanted the death penalty back there would be a way around EEC regulations, which we do alter as the UK does have a say in EEC policy.
There are many problems with the EEC and many member countries who flout the EEC laws, some of the laws are there to try to protect the environment or vulnerable people, other laws appear stupid. British farmers no longer moan about the EEC and the large subsides many of them get, farm less land for more money!
My grandfather fought in the second world war and I think he would be shocked that British courts, not the EEC, are not using the full weight of English law on violent criminals, sentencing is very lenient and reduced for good prison conduct. Violent criminals are not properly parolled on release with little respect for breaking the terms of their parole and punishment for such infringement.
The problems of our society is of our own making, we can't blame Brussels for everything, a life sentence now is often only 15 years in the 1950's a judge could impose a minimuim of 25 or 30 years before possible parole. But with the lack of UK prisons and the government telling judges to impose less strict sentencing or their sentence being overturned on appeal it is no wonder we are in such a state here. We have had a gradual slip in sentencing over the last 30 years and we need to back track as a nation.
Andy

Answer 3

No, I don't see the Country had any choice but to go to war in view of the Hitler hatred of anyone who was not considered Aryan.

All the other points you make stem from us joining EEC, as it was then. None of your points matter in the context of what happened when Germany over-ran Europe.

However, I read the following recently!

When the number of votes each Country was to have were recently challenged by the Polish Prime Minister, I think Germany had the presidency, and this is not a quote, but the Polish Prime Minister said something along the lines that they would have had a lot more votes had Germany not killed so many of his Countrymen in WW11. The reply was that we must look to the future and not backwards. Now who said this very same phrase six months ago!!

Answer 4

The major power of the two sides will be Allied Forces: America + European Union + Japan + Taiwan + South Korea + India + Israel Joint Forces: Russia + China + North Korea + India + Iran Allied should be able to win, but who knows, sometimes history is a little bit weirder than you would expect World War 3 is not likely to happen, but a Cold War 2 might

Answer 5

For a start, why would you want to bring back the death penalty? it's not an effective punishment... Over 90 countries have already abolished the death penalty for all crimes.

I don't see why that is such a problem.

Secondly, as most of the above have already stated; The Second World War was to fight against the Nazi's!!

So no, it was not a waste of time.

Answer 6

We've given in to European decadence. That is to say we've embraced their culture of freedom without responsibility. That is a betrayal of traditional British values. Europeans want freedom but they don't want to invest in a millitary that will defend that freedom. All the major European nations have reduced spending on the millitary since WW2. This makes Europe dependent on America.

Answer 7

Gordon Brown must take some, if not all of the blame on this issue. He gave away most of our rights and sovereignty and to top the lot returned the £7.2 billion pounds that Mrs Thatcher fought so hard for. This however has nothing to do with WW2. We fought then for our freedom and had we lost this kind of questions and answers would have been banned.

Answer 8

Modern day Britain does not really have anything to do with world war two...the war was about stopping the Nazis taking over the world

Answer 9

WW 1 was the war we should have lost if natural order was to be maintained. It took all the clout of the empire to defeat a technologically and morally superior nation. Germany's defeat led to the unnatural in-balance of WW II, where instead of a war the world just went plain mad.

Answer 10

certain aspects of European law is objectionable, the points you highlight are ,but, the war11 was not dealing with that issue. It dealt emphatically, with a most evil regime,a regime that you would not, have been able to raise any sort of complaint whatsoever, against that authority,as many thousands of individuals found out, and paid with their lives,many suffering torture prior to dying.