How long before the US police start routine torture?

Question

Let's face it, torture has been around for a long time and even though the Geneva Convention banned it it was still going on secretely.

Now however we see that Bush and Friends have decided that torture is ok again in this dangerous world we live in (even though the US has no rival to its enormous military power unequalled in history). It's get killed by nasty terrorists or allow us to torture people so we can protect you.

At the moment this is confined to a military setting - although they can just decide you are a terrorist and torture the hell out of you anyway.

It can't stay that way for long and the World can see the direction the US is going in so I was just wondering how will it be until the police can routinely torture suspects? This has to be the next step in oppressing the population and it's going to be neccessary once people realise their jobs are all going to places where labour is much cheaper...

You people should wake up this is no joke and it's going to happen.

Can't even see it coming eh? Propoganda sure is a powerful tool.

Call me Bwana - you can mess around with words if you want but everyone knows what torture is and defining people as illegal combatants is ridiculous ie. just an excuse to do whatever you like to them. And I'm sure you are not ignorant you are just trying to avoid the facts - don't.

Answer 1

I think we should allow the police to waterboard suspects during interrogation. I bet they could get a 99% confession rate by going that route, whether the person being interrogated was guilty or not.

Then at that point, bring back executions to local jails. So that once a person is waterboarded into confessing, they can be put in front of a judge that day, and executed by sundown. It would sure decrease the backlog of court cases in each county.

(biting sarcasm...in case you missed it)

Answer 2

It's already happening in some cities. Here in Phoenix a prisoner died of suffocation while strapped in a restraint chair (see link). In another case, an officer tased a suspect for 45 seconds (the maximum is supposed to 5 seconds). Of course this was fatal, but I doubt that it was a quick death. In effect he was tortured to death using a "non-lethal" weapon. It was motivated purely by revenge because the suspect had shoved the officer's partner/girlfriend out of the way while escaping in an earlier encounter. I'm sure there have been many more abuses. Those are just a few of the most publicized local ones.

Answer 3

Ignorant question.

Please state any evidence that the US has engaged in torture. Aside from the idiotarian rhetoric of the left, evidence does not exist that the US has engaged in torture.

And the even more moronic belief that the police will now engage in it illustrates the complete lack of critical thinking skills of the left.

The fact is that the terrorists, as illegal enemy combatants, are not, nor have they ever been, protected by the Geneva Conventions. To be protected by Geneva, you have to follow all the rules of the Conventions first.

Second, with regards to international agreements against torture, torture is not specifically defined. (For the record, "waterboarding" does not necessarily meet the definition of "torture".) And since it does not specify what is and what is not "torture" - that is left for each signatory to define.

What may or may not have been done by US interrogators to the Gitmo detainees did not meet our definition of torture.

And the fact that detained enemy combatants from a war zone do not fall under the purview of the US criminal justice system seems to be incomprehensible to the left. This means that what is considered acceptable treatment for illegal combatants (who, per Geneva, could actually have been summarily executed) is not considered acceptable treatment for prisoners of the US criminal system.

It's something else entirely.

And that's why the question is so ignorant.

Answer 4

Hardly factual. Lets compare the torture of U.S. captured forces in Iraq. You know, the ones that are headless. All we do is waterboarding, and play loud music. Time for all the baby killing abortion rights people (ironic that they are the same that called Vietnam veterans baby killers) gay loving freaks known as dems to grow up. Get a job and pay your own bills for a change...

Answer 5

You guys truly live in fantasy land ? if some one with more info than you is trying to warn you , don't bark back at him like a junk yard dog ? he already knows this stuff, now he is sharing it with you, if you don't wanna listen then get the hell out, and let him save some poor guys emm from this freaking Gov. OK .

Answer 6

Too late - it's already happened.

Did you not hear about the New York police raping that guy with a plunger a couple of years ago?

And the taser thing is RIDICULOUSLY way out of hand.

Thanks, bush!

Answer 7

Shouldn't you be paying attention to the teacher instead of ranting nonsense on here?

Answer 8

So many people drinking that cool aid its hard to believe.

Answer 9

I'm not sure what you are saying. Seems to be a rant or chat, which is a violation of Yahoo TOS.

Answer 10

The us is gonna collapse soon.