Question for those who support universal health care?

Question

One cannot live without food and shelter. Like health care, if people were forced to dowithout these they would not survive. That being the case, would you support the idea that it should be the government's responsibilty to provide free housing and groceries to every family? If not, then why not?

If we are the richest country in the world, rich enough to give everyone free health care, then why not food and houses?

btw, If i could ask Hillary one question, this would be the one. I'd probably get tasered for asking it.

Umm where would Canada be without our drugs? our research and development?

Answer 1

That is silly, housing is a choice. A rich man can choose to live poor, a poor person can choose to live beyond their means and everything in between.

Medical care is a necessity.
Housing is, but it is also a choice of where one wants to live, how they want to live, how big or small a home, hell, even a cardboard box for some is all they really need.

Medical care is not a choice unless it is elective.
Nor are prescription medicines.

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Here is what I wrote about Universal Health Care that is just as applicable there as it is here.

We have freedom to speak out.
Freedom to vote.
Freedom to travel, buy what we want, etc.

But what is that freedom worth if we don't have financial freedom?

I'm not talking about being poor, or not having enough money, I am talking about that $hit happens and even if the best of us planners plan for our future, they can still end up on the very short end, on welfare, food stamps and lack of medical care.

Example:
How many stories have I heard from people who have relatives, friends or themselves where their medical insurance ran out, their life savings depleted and forced to sell their homes and end up in bankruptcy?

Why is it, the richest country in the world doesn't have universal health care, when every industrialized western country does? Why can they do it, but we can't?

Why is it that so many Americans are so selfish, consumed with their own self interest that they won't pay a dime for others health care, yet those same people, it seems, will fight tooth and nail for peoples rights in other countries and bankrupt our country in the process? That makes no sense whatsoever.

Our constitution guarantees the welfare of our people, why do we ignore that? Why do we let corporate greed take over and jack up our health care costs to the point were we have the costly medical care on the planet? Yet the ones who are against universal health care fight for the rich fat cat who doesn't give one $hit for them or the horse they rode in on.

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We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense,

promote the general welfare,

and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

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There ya got it, Universal Health Care and protection from skyrocketing cost for needed services.

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Where would Canada be without our research, etc? The same place they are now. France has some huge pharmaceutical and medical research facilities, and they have Universal Health Care.

No Hillary will not tazer you, but you will get an earful that will make you come up begging for air.

I want you to consider something. Why is it that almost consistently those that complain about Universal Health Care being so bad are getting that information second hand, yet those that live under it find it pretty damned good? Who benefits from our health care system? For profit HMO's, hospitals, insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, etc. Don't you think the propaganda that the right spews has its base in the above?
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Peace

Jim

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Answer 2

I don't support Universal Healthcare. I'm wondering if there needs to be an amendment to the constitution which would prevent the government from being able to take over any segment of the economy. Regulation is one thing but nationalization of an entire industry is NOT what we do in this country. It amazes me that even though there are problems with the healthcare industry, noone can come up with any ideas on fixing the problem except for Universal Healthcare, which will only cause more problems.

Some people have said that Doctors just flat out charge too much. But I don't think people have considered the cost of liability insurance for a Doctor. It's outrageously high because people are allowed to sue hospitals for unbelievable and unjustifiable amounts of money. Maybe congress should consider tort reform to alleviate this problem. There are other solutions. Given the inefficiency of the government I don't see the sense of letting them control healthcare. It still has to be paid for just in a different way, thru taxes.

Answer 3

The USA is the only country in the Industrized world that does not have some sort of universal health care. Im from Canada and dispite all the talk from Americans I read about how bad our health care system is up here..It actually works pretty bloody well...and costs less to run than what your charged for medical care in the USA. We live longer than Americans and our infant mortality rate is alot lower than in the USA so we must be doing something right.Its also not free or some kind of hand out like you guys think...we pay higher taxes to pay for it...but its worth it.Isn't that what a country is suppose to be about... its called taking care of your own people.

Answer 4

If it was the government's job to provide food and water and shelter to each and every individual in this country, not only would the government be bankrupt, but no one would have a job, and the economy and modern civilization would crumble. I hate that you equated this question to universal health care.. it's apples and oranges and people who desire the only industrialized country, the richest country, in the world that doesn't have universal health care to have it, does not mean we are looking for a handout... I work my butt off... I work hard at a job that doesn't pay very well, and I work another job to try to put myself through school.. but I do not think the government should do that for me. I do, however, think that as a citizen of the richest country in the world, as an active participant of democracy, that I have a right to health care when I'm sick.. and that right should not be questioned by people who equate health care to free groceries.

Answer 5

We spend 100's of billions in effort to kill people. We can't afford to rebuild bridges or city's that flood from hurricanes. We can;t afford decent schools. We pay for aliens coming in. We are controlled by the large corporations.So why worry about are own people in need and brother they count in the tens of millions. So no lets pretend Therese not a need and it will just go away. It's more important to kill and keep the class between rich and poor widening I would hope none of you lose there insurance get sick then lose what you own,

Answer 6

That's a good question. The government does assist in housing (low-income, Section 8) and food (food stamps, welfare). However, just like with medical care (SChips, medicare), the efforts are patchwork and half-hearted.

Frankly, I think we'd be much better off if the government either did nothing or did it right -- these piecemeal inadequate bandaids do more to perpetuate long-term problems than to resolve them.

Answer 7

No.

Why? Because there are affordable alternatives for individuals with low incomes. In the world of health insurance, the alternative to the expensive stuff is none at all.

When there are individuals paying over $600.00 per month for health insurance for them and their families through their place of employment, and they make just over $10.00 per hour, the government needs to step in and stop the raping of the low and middle class citizens of this nation.

One can purchase groceries and find affordable healthcare within their financial means - health insurance is another matter altogether. And if you choose to go without, you're screwed.

You're comparing apples and oranges. Sorry.

Answer 8

There is help for the poor now. If we get universal health, do you think there will be then. No they will be put on a waiting list just like Canada, France and the British and will dye before they get help.

Come on people and check your facts with universal care before you go wanting it. You will be paying double taxes and won't know where the health care money is going just like they robbed the social security.

Check with Canada and the others I seen interviews from their health care and they praise ours. Theirs stinks.

Answer 9

if you don't have a home, it doesn't hurt me physically. the same goes if you are starving. if you can't afford a doctor, you may very well be walking around sick. obviously if you can't afford a doctor you can't afford to stay home from work, so you are out there passing on your illness to a lot of people. if i get sick from you i have to spend my money going to a doctor, and loose money from the time i miss at work. it just makes sense to keep everyone healthy so we don't all get sick.

Answer 10

I don't but I had to comment on your wonderful way of showing that idea for what it is. I am afraid of what the answers might be, though.