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ASSUMING the universe started w a bing bang

There is no such thing as freewill. We and everything around us that is happening, has happened, and will happen had already been predetermined when the first atoms were created and bumped against each other in the early stages after the big bang; or possibly before that.
Don't you think that had not the the "hydrogen atom that collided against the helium atom 13 billion years ago" would not had resulted into creating something as big as our galaxy? Our solar system? Our planet? The climate that created an environment suitable for the first amino acids? Our birth and brain cells. Our thoughts and actions?
Don't you see everything as a colliding row of dominoes sometimes?
I think everything is "already set in stone". Like a student figuring out the answer to a perfectly elastic collision problem. The correct answer had already existsted WAY before he began to answer the question...

2007-11-18 10:27:21 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

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no one really knows, but if your happy to beleive it sounds good . anything is possible you may have hit the nail on the head. BUT we will never know not in our life time anyway.

2007-11-18 10:34:04 · answer #1 · answered by doc 2 · 0 0

My philosophical friend, your assumptions have led you to the wrong conclusion. Don't you realize that NOTHING is intentional. the first hydrogen atom bonding with another is an accident. so is the atmosphere on our planet, so is our planet. We have nothing BUT free will. The big bang happened and everything was self sustaining from there. it's all chance and accident. If you assumed that GOD created the universe then maybe everything is set in stone. But i don't believe in god. and i believe that we are accident just like or sun and our moon and the universe as a whole. we are not intended. and neither is anything we do. the only thing we can really do is have an effect on one and other just like one hydrogen atom on another. Now i don't expect you to listen to me and drop your theory and accept mine, but i'd like to think i had an effect on you!

2007-11-18 10:45:24 · answer #2 · answered by Ossren 2 · 0 0

There is a lot of flexibility in cause and effect. Tiny changes can give rise to huge differences in the long run if they occur in the right place and time - the "butterfly effect." Looking at things on ever-smaller scales, different effects can be predicted, and there never comes a point when the process is inevitable. There are an infinite number of instances when things could turn out differently, and these are arrayed along two separate dimensions at right angles to time. When we perceive something, we are not perceiving a point but a form in these dimensions. Nothing is completely fixed.

2007-11-18 10:37:59 · answer #3 · answered by grayure 7 · 0 0

Yeah this is basically how I've been going about thinking about free will and predestination and existentialism. Sure in a physical sense, things are not necessarily "set in stone" but the way in which things happen is ultimately on its way of to happening and this is out of human perception. However, that's a metacognative sense. On a social level, through perception and human experience, we are still in that sense responsible for what we do. The line is gray, life is not a dichotomy, but a gradient of issues.

EDIT: Forgot a line. :)

2007-11-18 10:33:35 · answer #4 · answered by ? 2 · 0 0

I'm sorry. Did you just come up with the theory of destiny?

I think you will find that people have heard this before my friend but I applaud you for actually thinking about destiny from a scientific viewpoint. Strengthening existing theories is an admirable existance. Passing them off as your own work of genius is a little silly though.

Keep it up and I don't mean that in a patronising way :O)

2007-11-18 10:41:36 · answer #5 · answered by Dan G 1 · 1 0

Wow big question. There is certainly no logical reason to argue against your position. However I would suggest that our experiences of making choices perhaps suggests that free will might exist. Not a very strong counter I must admit but something worth thinking about.

2007-11-18 10:36:19 · answer #6 · answered by silondan 4 · 0 0

Something like how all the possible outcomes are already set and all we do is make choices as to which one we will fit into?

I think I've read something like this concerning quantum mechanics and parallel (or right angle) universes in a sci-fi journal somewhere.

Works for me.

2007-11-18 10:34:13 · answer #7 · answered by Sabin Figaro III 4 · 0 0

That is a lot like the philosophy put forth in the Matrix movies in which the events have already hap pend it is for us to understand why. I like to think that I have free will and can make my own choices but you put forward an interesting premise.

2007-11-18 10:31:49 · answer #8 · answered by Rational Humanist 7 · 0 0

Only when viewed from outside of the constraints of time. Since this ability has not been proven to exist, then the only measure I can use is from my place in the time line. From here all choices are indistinguishable from free will.

2007-11-18 10:53:47 · answer #9 · answered by JJ 3 · 0 0

I think that in the grand scheme of things, you are right.

However, the little things in life are our own choices to control. For example: you posting this question was of your own free will and no 'outer power' compelled you to do so.

2007-11-18 10:38:53 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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