Both Right and Left, you do realize that there is more to life than being pro or Anti War?

Question

It would seem that this room is preoccupied with war spending and Party affiliations... The right has been galvanized by a corporate media that spins almost entirely right Including NPR,PBS and CNN, despite the Michael Savages and Glenn Becks of the world telling you otherwise..
Then the folks on the left that defend themselves on here always from a position of weakness, accepting the Oh So Hateful "Liberal" Moniker ???? and then answering or making their own attacks based on this Left/Right Identity crisis...

Guess what, ... America is founded on an equal participation of conservative value and Progressive thinking and social Programs...
One without the other is out of Balance...

War is not the only Issue and Neither is The election in 2008...
Unemployment
The Shrinking Dollar and the escalating cost of living..
Misplaced Taxation
Health care
Homelessness,
Planet and Climate Change
Corporate consolidation of Media,
Education standards and costs
Family Farms
etc,etc,etc...

Not "ONE" person in this room this morning resides in that top 2% that benefits so greatly from our current entitlement system...
So why defend it so strongly???
we are all under the same weight...
why are we so easily divided along these artificial Lines??????

Then we're Fu@ked Bossy Babe because we can not win ....

"Doc" ... you are lying!

Answer 1

American imperialism is the biggest issue in the world today.

Answer 2

maximum civilised societies are in favour of abortion if the mother chooses to have one. Abortion itself is a perfectly organic procedure with between 50% and 70% of all fertilised ova aborting certainly with out the mother being conscious she has conceived. If those fertilised ova are those with souls, it extremely is an vast organic wastage. apart from those organic unknown terminations, many foetuses abort a at the same time as after concept and are in a lot of circumstances said as miscarriages and then stillborn. The medical terminations that ensue are a drop interior the sea when compared with the organic terminations. A fertilised ovum is a cellular that has the flair to develop right into a man or woman. Any cellular on your body has that potential, there is no longer something particular about an egg. If, as some non secular human beings trust, a fertilised ovum is a man or woman with a soul, what occurs at the same time as the ovum splits into 2 and similar twins improve. the position does the further soul come from? What occurs at the same time as 2 ova which have separated and developed one at a time then combine to kind a chimaera, one human being from the origins of two. Does this human being have one soul or 2 and if one, the position did the further one flow? each and each and every of the cells that made up 2 all and assorted is now making one. The fertilised ovum isn't a man or woman any better than a fingernail is. A man or woman will develop into human with each and each and every of the rights of a human at the same time as that's born and not previously.

Answer 3

I sincerely doubt that we are under the same yoke. I'm retired military. Sounds great doesn't it? I did twenty plus years so that I could reap the benefits of my labor. I EVEN went back to school and got myself retrained. Now I own a small business and work six days a week. I'm doing so incredibly well that each year over the last three, I keep finding myself in a new tax bracket and owing more than I did the year before. My newest vehicle is twelve years old and has 200,000 miles on it. Still, having been retired for seven years now, I never get to play golf and most of my friends are fighting overseas -- or I've planted their butts in the ground. And now my oldest is getting ready to step off and go over.
Equally yoked?! Forgive me if I state plainly, no more welfare, no more social programs, no more taxation. This is not a debate. It's a bunch of people come together to vent and say their piece.
I'm lying?! Yeah right! I did over twenty years in the Navy, most of it with the Marine Corps. At it's worse, I lost 47 men in 2 1/2 years. I doubt you've ever done ANYTHING for this country (other than cheat on your taxes, stay within 5 MPH of the speed limit and insist that you are a "model" citizen. Why don't you go smoke another camel turd? Loser.

Answer 4

I agree. Regardless of you position in the political arena, most people want to be free. They don't want an all-powerful state making descisions for them.

It all boils down to the fact that, the essence of freedom is the limitation of government. You can't have freedom when government is out of control.

The Founders gave us the Constitution. The Constitution limits the power of government. This insures the maximum amount of freedom for the individual.

Read the Constitution and then look at what has been going on in Washington. Look at the growth of government over the last hundred years. Look at how taxes have multiplied. Look at all the laws on the books today. And look at the value of the dollar.

These things are all a result of the American people allowing politicians to violate the Constitution. We are being enslaved, bankrupted and robbed. Why have we continued to re-elect criminals who violate their oath to the Constitution?

Why do we fight un-declared wars around the globe with nations that have not attacked us? Why are the terrorists attacking us? Why is our national debt skyrocketting while our taxes are going through the roof? Why is the dollar worth less than 4 cents of the 1913 (pre Federal Reserve) dollar?

The answer: failure to follow the Constitution.

We need to restore Constitutional government so that we can have three things: Peace, Prosperity and Freedom. The alternative is more of what we are suffering with: perpetual war, deficits/bankruptcy and slavery. Make your choice.

Since you asked, I'm supporting Ron Paul.

Answer 5

The war has been a huge issue from the start, because most people now see it as a "lie based" war... The reason for being in Iraq has changed so many times, no one understands it now....And since this war seems unjustified, then people are very angry that our brave soldiers are being killed and it looks like there is absolutely no end to it....It's hard to focus on something else, when you see and hear about all the soldiers deaths because of Bush's personal agenda....Not too mention that Bush just doesn't seem to care that so many soldiers are being killed for Iraq....and the fact that he doesn't seem to care to find the actual terrorist responsible...Bin Laden....Then you include the Billions the government can no account for in the war, lack of personal protection/armor for the soldiers....So, you see that it's tough for people to get their minds off of it, especially if someone close to you has to fight this damn war or you've lost someone to this war...

Answer 6

Yes there is more to life than war. You mention some great issues and they need to be address.
You can ingore our survial because it is hot button issue.

Unemployment- It is down and if we go tax the big companies they will take their job elsewhere.
Misplaced Taxation- On the rich or the poor?
The poor get tax with lottos, smoking, and drinking those taxes hit them hard.
Rich those who are the ones creating jobs should be punish for their hard work.
Or how about we do something with pork barrel spending or if a buck to help the poor that 90 cents lost in waste should be the one we go after.
Health care- Don't destory our health care and give it to the government to wind up like Canada or England where kids have to beg money so their parents can get the cancer drugs we need.
Homelessness- How about putting those that are mentally ill back into hospitals rather than roaming the streets.
Planet and Climate Change- It is going to happen with us or without us. To make Al Gore the god of it that should never be question is insane.
Corporate consolidation of Media- We have only 1 media outlet that has conservative slant and the rest liberal. Leave Free Press alone.
Education standards and costs- Yes lets establish standards rather than making sure Johnny doesn't feel bad because he can read.
Teach Johnny to read and write and to get over it face it the world is hard.
Family Farms- Little late on that one they are going away and some are coming back.

Here some issues you should consider

Parents to be parents and discipline their children rather than letting build bombs in their bedrooms.
Parents learn to live with one another than making divorce an easy way out. All we have done is cheapen relantionships.
We are more than mammals and we don't have to always do it like they do it on the Discorvery channel.
How about morals to control the spread of HIV and STDs. It would be cheaper and far more effective that depending on piece of rubber.

Trash PC it has provide nothing by nation of victims.

Stop depending on the government everytime things go wrong.

We are still weaping over Katherina.
Yet when a small town in KS gets level by a twister in the night before the sun is up. The streets are cleared and people are in homes.

I like to see this nation start caring for their neighbors more rather than thinking it someone else's problem.

So the gay couple next door has adopted couple of children. How about welcoming them to the neighborhood.

A conservative comes home from church has car load of kids and trying to get them in the house on Sunday help him/her than go to your Green Peace rally.

The problem is not the government it is each one of us. We need to be doing a better job taking care of each other.

Answer 7

War is a big issue. It's costing us over a trillion dollars so far. Somebody has to pay that bill. That's going to be you and me.

As an issue it's a big topic. (I think there's a much bigger one at the moment, but I'll get to that.)

The war in Iraq is bad for a good number of reasons. It's not justified, it's costing us lives and soldiers, it's eroding our treasury and the dollar, it's keeping the price of oil skyrocket high, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have been killed during our occupation, our good will and name have been seriously ruined by the Bush administration.

America is a democratic society. The war in Iraq was pushed on us by deceptive means. We're now stuck there and getting out will not be easy. There would be grave consequences for pulling out too fast, and disastrous consequences for staying too much longer.

Bottom line, we gotta get out in a quick but gradual way.

Now, all the other issues you mentioned relate to the war. As long as the war exists, all other issues get pushed to the back burner including the mother of all problems global warming.

As long as the occupation of Iraq continues, the US cannot move forward as a nation. The US will not have the money to deal with internal and domestic problems because so much money has been wasted in Iraq. It's going to take generations to reduce the deficit spending habits that the Reagan/Bush/Bush II administrations have waged on us. (If we're not willing to pay taxes to fight a war, we shouldn't fight it.)

I agree, I wish we could move past the war as an issue. It's not going away until we solve it. Part of the issue with the war is that it's an ideological struggle on behalf of the GOP to crush the Democrats. The purpose of the war is chaos. As long as it's not resolveable, other issues can be ignored.

You make a good point, but we can't move forward when people are dying, buildings are being destroyed, nations are being toppled, and our money is being spent with no regard for the consequences.

Hope that helps to give you a perspective on the issue.

Answer 8

Wars are never won using the military UNLESS every man, woman and child of the enemy is dead.

The purpose of military action is to limit the choices of the opposite side until a political agreement can be achieved.

To make it simple, you put a gun to someones head and you say, "do this or die". If you are not willing to pull the trigger you will lose if the other person calls your bluff. If you pull the trigger you destroy the opposition. If the other person agrees to do what you have asked you have succeeded.

In Iraq, just as in Japan and Germany we placed a gun to the head of the people and said "Reorganize your government so we can be friends not enemies and work together to live happily ever after."

Germany and Japan did that and have succeeded. Iraq will also succeed unless they succumb to the weapon others are pointing at them.

I say we remove that "weapon" by nuking Tehran. Syria too. No half a*s job the way we did in Japan so they can rebuild. I say we turn most of the nations land mass into a radioactive wasteland where the ground turns into glass and can't blow into other nations.

We have been negotiating with Iran since Carter and it has not worked. Nuke them.

Answer 9

There is more to life for NON-Americans. Most AMericans only exist as mindless zombies struggling to pay for their new but retro cars ( as US companies are too cheap to do sometthing interesting), their super high rent for neighborhoods are are generally dumps, and their taxes that fly out of the country "rebuilding" Iraq and overpaying their leeching and greedy politicians. And having a poor education does not allow for a nation who can think otherwise. So YOU can give up trying to inure them to anything other than a simian mindset.

Answer 10

I have been trying to open a debate on all those things but I mostly get smart *** remarks .I believe we have some serious issues to tackle in a bipartisan way.

It is a debate until we fix it and the war is part of it, But Doc you offer no solutions just telling us what you don't like is not a solution.

Answer 11

What people need to understand, is that regardless of who wins the White House, we will have troops in Iraq for the next 20 years at least. Not to mention billions spent each year hunting down terrorists. Once we all can get that through out thick heads, maybe we can focus on:

* $338.3 billion wasted each year on illegal aliens.
* BILLIONS wasted each year on military foriegn aid
* BILLIONS in government waste

Seems to me that if this country has over a TRILLION dollars to waste, blow, and literally give away, then it seems to me that the working citizens of this country deserve a MAJOR tax reduction.