Is Peyton Manning the most overrated QB in NFL history? Part 2?

Question

Seems like you're all forgetting what took place when Manning left Tennessee, THEY WON! Coincidence? Manning had Marvin Harrison since his rookie year, he's averaged about the same receiving yards before Manning came along and had less TD's only because the team was bad. He's caught 10 or more TD's for Manning every year since 99, saying Peyton made him better would be like saying Kurt Warner made anyone around him better in STL. And for the guy that said he had small receivers that can't beat double coverage, hit your self real hard, Wayne would be a number one receiver in any other team and both are only 4 inches shorter than Randy Moss. Tom Brady threw 3500+ passing yards with Reche Caldwell as his primary receiver, he didn't really get reps till week 5 and finished with 700+ yards. Brady was tied for 8th in the league in 25+ yard passes just a few shy of Manning, needless to say who was underneath the pass. The significance of that one game was he was short Clark/Gonzalez/Harrison.

Answer 1

Listen brotha... this is a question that you will never get what you want from. Most Peyton Manning fans only followed him from when he got into the NFL and would choose to believe he is what made Marvin Harrison what he was... that is so rediculous. Before Manning he was averaging 850 yards a season and 8 TD's with a really crappy QB. With Manning... it was considerably more, averaging 1500 yards a season. Thing is... you throw a decent QB in lets say... Trent Green in with those WR's consistently over the years and he would be looking pretty good too. Now is Trent Green a good NFL QB... yes, one of the best? Absolutely not. Peyton Manning has had the oppurtunity to play on a consistent basis with some of the leagues best talent... Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark and Brandon Stokely and has ALWAYS had a great running back. Imagine how Trent Green would look if you gave him all that for about 9 years... people would be arguing he was the greatest of all time. I think when Peyton Manning has games like he did the other week... a game in which he doesn't have his top recievers he is exposed. Exposed as what... a bad QB? No... everyone has bad days, but it exposes that he is not that great when he doesn't have his boys... he's only a good NFL QB. Now you take Tom Brady... constantly switching recievers and never really had a good rushing attack until Corey Dillon and that was during the year of their 3rd superbowl. Now Brady has the weapons and he is on pace to SHATTER many of Manning's weapons. Alot of people argue Defense, but the reason Brady's defense has always been better is because of Brady... because he knows how to slow down the offense so the defense gets time to rest. Manning... for most of his career just chucked the ball down the field to Harrison to juice his stats in the regular season and the defense would be tired and when he would get to the postseason and try to do that he would instead of getting quick TD's to put the game out of reach like in the regular season... against the leagues better defenses he would throw picks and the game would be over. Where as Brady just kept doing what he does... slowed down the offense and the defense came in and did the rest. It's called being a field general. This year it seems like Manning finally got it where now he is not putting up crazy numbers, but trying to slow down the offense and NOW... that "crappy" defense all of a sudden looks good... taking a page out of Tom Brady's book, huh? Thing is though... unlike Tom Brady... when his receivers get hurt... he blows the game and gets picked 6 times by trying to force it to recievers he's uncomfortable with. Brady on the other hand just throws to whose open. It's really simple Brady is better then Manning... people will never admit it though, no matter how many truthes or facts you throw at them... never will. Brady could have 5 more years like the ones he's having this year and people would still say Manning's better. Alot of them will be hypocritical and say that it's because who he has to throw too... that's never been the case before this year and he already has three superbowls and two MVP awards for them. Well whatever... we know Brady is better and any other unbiased NFL opinion holder would say the same, it wouldn't make sense otherwise.

Answer 2

True, after Manning left Tennessee the Vols won the National Championship with a strong running game, they had Jamal Lewis and Travis Henry in the same team.

But this is like saying that Michigan never won a championship with Brady after doing it with Griese.

This is a career year for Tom, you can not expect to do it every single season. Even if he breaks the TD record, he will be like 80 TD and 12000 yards short of Peyton, and he's only a year younger.

Jim Harbaugh was an above average QB who made the Pro Bowl a couple of times. But Harrison never had more than 900 yards or 8 TD, so it's dumb to think that he had the same yards. In Manning's rookie year Marvin was hurt and missed some games, otherwise he would have had his first 1000 yd-10 TD season.

Manning truly makes his staff play better. Just look at Jerome Pathon, Brandon Stokley, Marcus Pollard, Ken Dilger, and the list is long. Peyton made this people look like stars.

Answer 3

Peyton manning is a great QB, but he is also REALLY overrated. He has had amazing talent surrounding him his whole career. Hes now showing what he can do without amazing talent. He isn't putting up monster numbers anymore like he used to. He's just being average. If you want to compare him to Tom Brady then you can. Look what Tom did with average talent, he brought the pats to three superbowls. Even when the pats had the average talent, and the colts had amazing talent, the pats were still able to stop payton. In these matchupts, twice peyton threw more than 3 picks in a game. Brady never threw more than 3 picks in a game vs the colts. I'm not saying Peyton Manning is bad, because hes not, but he is definatly one of the most overrated QB's of all time.

Answer 4

A QB is as good as the receivers he has. He can be the best QB in the world with completions, but what's the point when he has no one to throw to? Peyton Manning has kept a very high passer rating. Before the game started, he looked as if something was bothering him. Whatever it was distracted him enough to cause six interceptions, his offensive line kept breaking which is why he was sacked so many times.. the team started falling apart. Brady is a good QB because he has solid receivers. With Manning, Harrison is out, he doesn't really have ayone. Is he the most overrated no, he's been in the league long enough to prove himself and I think he's done that. I find it hilarious that people will use one bad game to determine the rest of a person's career.

Answer 5

peyton is a great passer and a very good quarterback. there is very little criticism that can be leveled against his play. i will say that he leaves much to be desired in how he carries himself after losses. especially big losses. after their loss to pittsburgh in the 2005 playoffs he showed no class at all in his post game comments. he knew that edgerrin james contract was up and in his comments immediately following the playoff loss he stated that the team needed to be concerned with their receivers. james had worked very hard on that team and peyton's comments just left his veteran teammate out to dry.

he is a wealth of excuses after big losses.

he has floundered many times in the playoffs. it's true he made it last year and won the super bowl .. but how can we forget some of his other playoff disappointments.

tom brady is much more efficient as a quarterback. far fewer mistakes and he NEVER makes bulletin board quotes that his opponents can get excited about.

tom brady is head and shoulders above peyton. peyton is head and shoulders above all the other young QB's in the league. on a career basis though i'd have to put brett favre ahead of him.

so in my opinion the three best quarterbacks playing the game right now are

1. Brady
2. Favre
3. P. Manning.

Answer 6

Amazing - I also answered the Part 1 question earlier.

Peyton Manning is an incredible QB; so he had a bad game and now his capability is being questioned.

He will be in the Hall of Fame someday; and many teams out there would be absolutely thrilled to have this guy as their QB. What a leader! He's amazing. Leave him alone! Peyton's a good guy too.

Answer 7

Not in NFL history because he is a decent QB but highly overrated is a good explenation for him he is proving what every one that doesnt buy into media hype has known for years,take away his big name recievers and he is adequate but not great like Tom Brady.

Answer 8

Still NO.....

But I see your point...Brady, especially.....He always managed to be near the top of the league throwing to mediocre receivers...Now he has some very good (great) ones and look what is happening...

This still doesn't change the fact Manning is a future HOF player, and is not over rated...Even with great receivers, you have to have the arm and the brains to find them and hit them, or what good are they?

JMO

Answer 9

MR MANNING IS A GOOD QB BE CAUSE OF HIS PASS PROTECTION AND THE SAME FOR TOM BRADY. BUT THEY GET COCKY. COLT LOST LAST WEEK BECAUSE THEY GOT COCKY. ACTUALLY THEY WERE PLAYING A LITTLE CHAOTIC. EVERY PLAY SHOULD BE EXECUTED DOWN TO THE BASIC. YOU LINE UP TAKE POSITION ECT JUST LIKE YOU PRACTICE EVERY DAY. THEN EXECUTE WITH AUTHORITY IN A COORDINATE MANNER. iTS NOT SUPPOSE TO LOOK CHAOTIC

Answer 10

No...Tom Brady is the most overrated QB in NFL history....