If you do not trust the holy books on the existance of god why do you...?

Question

...trust them on the non-existance of god. You say they are stupid and react to their stupidity. Why not think for yourself for a change?

Answer 1

That is the most ironic thing I've ever heard in my life. Someone who believes in god telling someone who doesn't believe in god to think for themselves. WOW!!!

To answer your question (not the think for yourself question) without bias, I'd say that some people believe holy books makes sense to them, some people believe the books about no god makes sense to them. Both parties are in the same boat.

Me, I believe that god is just one of many theories, one of which I don't believe. I think people are just trying to answer those age old questions, and the theory of god, fits best for them. I don't buy it 'cause there's no proof. People say look around you, that's not proof there's a god.

Looking around me and seeing life, doesn't mean a god created it. All that tells me is that that's the only answer you can think of so therefore it must be right. Well, that's not proof enough for me. I have 5 senses, none of which can sense god. Therefore I have no evidence of god. I see nature all around me, therefore I believe nature exists, not god.

Answer 2

In these kind of question, I always see the grains of a thought slipping through the askers fingers. OK tommmy, If I hold up a book, claiming that it was inspired, that said empirically that cosmic muffins spun around the ether until they bonded together making the solar system, and then the chocolate chips in them became humans and the muffins tops became heaven and the chips will return there someday when they melt......OK. Lets say that I believe this with all my heart. It is my belief system. To you it sounds absurd but it bothers you because it flies in the face of your beliefs. So I will tell you, "This is what my book says and it is the word." You can say, Nah-uh or if you want to refute me intelligently, you will look at my book and begin to look for the weaknesses within. I can then listen to you intelligently and participate in the conversation, simply believe what I believe and trust my faith (no disgrace there in my opinion) or formulate looping, circular rhetorical questions like the one you have asked.

Answer 3

I don't trust the holy books, but i don't think there're stupid. anyone can believe what they won't to believe, i can't disprove the existence of God, but i can't prove that he does exist either. If i saw evidence, like someone close to god, actually preform something that a human shouldn't be able to do to carry out god's will, then i would believe it. but if you think about it, the whole story doesn't make much sense. All theories of creation lack that degree of sense. I heard the big bang theory recited recently and i thought, exclaimed actually, "YA RIGHT!" i mean, the theory sounds just as crazy as god creating the world in 7 days... i try not to worry myself about who created what, but i think that someone will find the truth eventually.

Answer 4

I do think for myself. However, people present the Bible as proof and in the interest of fairness I read it several times, and immediately noticed the inherant contradictions. Something which manages to contradict itself on absolutes no less then 385 times, whilst claiming that it itself is entirely absolute, is just too illogocal to accept at face value. The Bible is not proof of itself, and if it was it would only be proof that God keeps changing his mind. So how would he be eternally right? How would he qualify as an omniscient absolute?
Most holy books sould be taken with a huge pinch of salt....

Incidentally, I'm agnostic. But anyone who takes the Bible literally should be aware of just how self contradictory it is. Its like saying "All trees are completely green", and then saying "All trees are completely orange", whilst trying to maintain that you are never wrong....

Added to which, outside the area of religious texts, the most basic characteristics of God can be seen to contradict. Omnipotence, for a start, contradicts any property other then itself which is supposed to be an inherant part of God, as he then lacks the power to not be any of these things....you don't need the Bible, Qu'ran or Torah to see that...

Answer 5

That doesn't even make sense. Are you under the impression that people use the Bible to disprove the existence of GOD? Well, they don't. However people DO use the Bible to disprove the reliability of a literal interpretation of THE BIBLE. There's a BIG difference between disproving God's existence and disproving The Bible's literal interpretation, in fact most believers are not fundamentalists.

Answer 6

After years of careful study of said "holy books," research into their history, facts (or lack of), and the languages, I have never said they are stupid. To some people they can be useful in part. BUT, to call someone, who has made an educated decision to NOT believe in these "holy books," stupid, only shows your own lack of education on the matter.

Answer 7

I actually do think for myself (or at least I'm convinced by the illusion of free will and I'm happy with that). I read books but just because there are printed words on paper it doesn't mean that I trust any of them. I just read and get whatever enjoyment and insight I can get from it as filtered through my own experience and my own thoughts.

The existence or non-existence of God doesn't depend on me.

Answer 8

Exactly. Nature does. The body and brain have all the necessary tools to respond to needs placed before them by their environment. The idea of 'wanting answers to life' is completely cultural and has absolutely nothing to do with the 'life' that is occurring spontaneously every moment. The idea of an entity outside of everything never gains reverence to life itself as that idea is really just an ignorant symbolic representation of life itself. Life can not know itself and we as life can not know life but attempt to symbolize it with the idea of mind, god, etc.

Answer 9

Books can be helpful, but cognition is the only way to find truth...

All darkness and stupidity vanish in the light of truth.

Answer 10

AMEN! geez you need to have a talk with my philosophy teacher!