I'm asking for opinions, not needless rants of the mindless in an attempt to act intelligent. Not addessing everyone, just hoping for respectible answers.
My point is, in the news, a man on Death Row yesterday, got saved because people think it is inhumaine to kill him by leathal injection, but he is on death row for killing a child.
But in this Country it is legal to kill a fetus, that clearly has a heartbeat, and is a growing life inside a woman's body. That it is not inhumaine to murder and tear apart a fetus, but it's perfectly ok for a man to stay alive after killing a little boy.
Where is the logic in this, I just don't understand the logic of the mindless that defend a man for killing a child but, women can walk into a facility even at as late as 17 weeks pregnant, and kill their child without punishment. What the hell is wrong with people?
I want intelligence in opinion, not the rantings of the intellectually impaired, and try to be nice please!
2007-11-16
15:44:03
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Thanks for the advice, but us edumacated like to reed quit often...... Did you get that, I hope you did Dialectic!
I was asking for an opinion, not to be accosted. Thanks but no thanks!
2007-11-16
16:06:49 ·
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Cookie that's was a great answer on the Abortion issue, Thank you!
2007-11-16
16:08:23 ·
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Schmorage, my point in that would be that, the 18 week cell in my body has a heartbeat, and it's first picture, to me that generization of "a fetus" is my living baby inside me.
Murder is the same in both instances, but my point is why should that man, be saved after killing a living child.
But you have your opinion, and I will let you have it, even if we don't agree.
:-)
2007-11-16
16:13:41 ·
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Xialou1, I'm mature enough to know that you are a Bigot, and made a very Hypocrytical statement in what you said. I said I wanted intelligent opinions ,NOT slander against the questioner. If you think I need to mature then I ask you to heed you own advice.
We all have a right to our own opinions and your words will never change my views because I have the right to think however I choose, just as much as you. So next time, don't question the intelligence of the questioner, question yourself, and how well you understand the meaning of the question.
2007-11-16
17:33:53 ·
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OK, OK, I see I still have to clarify. I'm only looking for opinions, Not slander. I more strongly believe everyone has a right to their opinion before these issues.
I just don't like the aspect of wrongful death, I believe in life, and beauty, love and joy. Even my open phrase of my page explains me. I'm a lover not a fighter.
So in return, I didn't want or ask for some of the negitive responses. I just want to hear anyone's opinion, which I fully support everyone's right to have, regardless if I approve or not.
So in conclusion, I will again ask you to please be nice, I only ask this question for OPINION, not slander on person views. Thank you for your answers to those curtious enough to keep the petty banter and personal direction out of this debate.
:-)
2007-11-16
17:39:54 ·
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BTW, I live in a state that doesn't practice the death penalty!
2007-11-16
17:46:10 ·
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You have to understand that a big reason this country went pro-death of the unborn, stems from the sexual freedom of the 70's. If it feels good, do it ... no consequences. Since then, more and more of society has become "comfortable" with the concept. I agree with your first responder that anyone who thinks its wrong to carry out a capital punishment, but ok to kill an innocent child, is seriously screwed up. Not all pro-death abortion rights people picket death row, but quite a few do. It's really a paradox that I can't explain.
2007-11-16 15:53:02
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answered by TexasTrev38 5
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I am unlike many people here pro abortion. I feel that any woman who goes as far as to have an abortion is obviously in no state to be a parent as i can only imagine how traumatic the experience is. The only people i believe are strongly against it are those who do not consider the reality of the situation, or the consequences of bad parenting (excluding religious people, they would eat babies if their holy book dictated it). A fetus is no more a person than a plant is, infact even less so, and a heartbeat doesn't make it anymore so. To kill a living thing only becomes murder when that living thing will be missed by the thing itself, a fetus is not capable of such thought, in the same way i believe euthanasia is not murder. In an ideal world as someone previously said abortion would only be necessary in extreme cases such as rape and health risks to the mother, but we live in no such place. Rather the loss of a potential life than the destruction of the mother and child's future lives.
As for the murderer, to kill him going by my view is indeed murder, even if done for just causes and in revenge for the most hideous of crimes, it has never been, and will never be the way forward for society. Besides it is surely more of a punishment for him to live than to die. Capital murder servers only one purpose, and that is to satisfy blood-lust, a blood-lust that can often be justified, but should never be encouraged.
It is all to easy to sit on a high horse and declaire that the world isnt how it ideally should be, but idealism and the enforcing of it has never solved anything. The only soloution is to tackle the cause, ever thought about the kind of parenting this murder recieved?
2007-11-16 16:28:09
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answered by Anonymous
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My country has completely abolished death penalty, but a woman have the right to choose abortion until 12th week, which in fact makes the life of a criminal more important than the life still unborn. There is also the question of euthanasia, wheter or not a human being shall be put to death if he or she is too sick or only too old to live on.
I believe we're dangerously close to playing God in question like these (and what can you expect when the society has decided to reject God or any other above the will of humanity?), and we're trying to decide what life is worthy of living or what we should just take away. But are we really competent of dealing with these kinds of questions? I believe not. We're only humans, and no matter how much knowledge we aquire, there will always be the chance of making mistakes, especially when we're trying to navigate through a terrain we don't know very well.
I know it's terribly easy for me to say that we don't have the right to take the life of an unborn child. I'm not the one who will carry and give birth to the baby, and I'm not the one who will be scarred by the experience of having a baby that I don't want or am not able to take care of. But what great responsibility do we not put on the woman? she Is the one who in her own discretion decides if another human being shall be allowed to live, and in some cases she might even be pushed by a cowardly man who don't want to take the responsibility for a baby that he himself have been a part of making!
In my belief, we're not giving the woman freedom over her body, we're only giving her a responsibility that is too heavy for her to carry. To all you pro-abortionists: Would you feel comfortable of having to choose if another living, healthy, grown up human being should be put to death and he has not been found guilty of any crime?
2007-11-16 16:40:59
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answered by Marc Foster 6
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The issue with the death penalty is Constitutional, regardless of the person's offense. They are debating whether it is cruel and unusual punishment......again...or still. The thing about the law is it applies to every one whether you like them or not. The protections you receive are afforded to everyone. If we are going to begin to make exceptions and just apply rights and protections only to people we feel are fit to receive them, then tear up the Constitution and re-name the country because we are no longer what our forefathers set out to create. On the abortion side of your question, once again, it is a legal issue. Abortion is legal. This is all absolutely logical and involves legal arguments. Your problem with it is that you inject your opinion and emotional reaction into it and confuse that with logic.Some one with a differing opinion draws a different conclusion. You cannot base a legal system on taking a poll of who likes the issue and who doesn't.
2007-11-16 16:03:27
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answered by Anonymous
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The only thing about the abortion debate that I know for sure is that the sides will never agree. Why not find common ground with the other side instead of trying to shout each other down? For example, I think both sides agree that unwanted pregnancies are bad. We should work together to try to eliminate these pregnancies from happening in the first place. Maybe then we can start talking to each other without anger and start sharing ideas on the bigger issue.
2007-11-16 15:49:33
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answered by Anonymous
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It is never not okay for a person to remain alive. Killing a child is far worse than abortion, but that doesn't make the death penalty, even for that man, an acceptable thing.
Think about it this way, you can't punish a dead man for his crime. My opinion, lock him up for life.
Second point, how can you compare a fetus to a child? I'm not saying abortion is right or wrong, I am just saying that is a completely unfair comparison.
2007-11-16 15:55:27
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answered by Ashley 4
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I support reproductive freedom for myriad reasons, not the least of ehich is that the government does not exist to regulate my family size. If proper sexual education and birth control were available freely, there would be no more abortion.
My question to you is: why is killing a cell worse than a full grown person? The bible I read doesn't have the word "a fetus" after "thou shalt not kill." Either you believe in killing or you don't.
When a man faces the death penalty, we are no longer questioning his humanity, but our own.
2007-11-16 15:50:58
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answered by Schmorgen 6
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In other words you only want to hear from those who agree with you. You are the one who has issued an unintelligent rant.
A woman has the right to decide about her body, not you. I do not understand abortion and find it deplorable but that is my opinion alone. I will make decisions for my daughter until she is an adult. Then it is up to her.
I think execution should be by beheading. Why can a doctor put me to sleep in a hospital (at which point he could remove my brain and I would feel nothing) but lethal injection is painful.
Besides to the condemned, the heck with your pain, you deserve it.
You need to quit preaching.
2007-11-16 16:00:14
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answered by Anonymous
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You are asking too much of human nature to want a non-opinionated nice answer on this subject, because there are none.
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I promise my life that this incident happened with liberals who will save a criminal, but kill a fetus. People who where never loved or where losers in school and who can't get a job or a car or laid and have nothing to do but degrade the human gene pool.
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I completely agree with you on this issue. I hope one day there will be a race of intelligent people like yourself inhabiting this planet.
2007-11-16 15:52:12
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answered by Reverand F@ Boy 2
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I guess I'm the opposite. I oppose abortion and agree with the death penalty in certain instances. (Pedophilia being one of my big pro-death offences.) I oppose abortion, by the way, on the grounds that it is emotionally abusive to women. I DON'T think taxpayer money should pay agencies to promote abortions. I do, however, believe that a safe, properly supervised option should be available to those women determined to emotionally abuse themselves that way.
2007-11-16 15:50:44
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answered by Rebeckah 6
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