How can there not be a God?

Question

The world is so wonderfully organised. How could it all organise itself. How do the trees know to shed their leaves in autumn..simple things like that..how does the earth keep spinning on its axis..how did the first simple organisms learn to evolve..someone/something or a froce must have guided the process right?

Maybe God is nature..whats this nature you talk about.

Exactly..where did the gases for the big bang come from?

Perhaps the definition of God isn't accurate. We do know what or who exactly he/she/it is. Have you thought, what is science? God could be science itself or 'the great scientist'.

Science is the 'how' while religion is the 'why'..I guesse I'll have to settle for that.

Answer 1

I believe in God. However, as Douglas Adams once said, a puddle of water might believe the hollow it was in was made just for it because it was the same shape. In other words, we think the Universe and ourselves are "fearfully and wonderfully made", but we wouldn't be able to think that without existing, so there could be an observer selection process where we are in a huge Universe or in one of an infinite number of parallel universes with slightly different physical properties, most of which are devoid of conscious beings. Moreover, there is no more reason to suppose the Universe was created than that it suddenly started to exist or has always existed.

Looking for evidence for God's existence in the nature of the Universe is a hostage to fortune, because if someone comes up with an explanation for the phenomena you have used, you are forced to stop believing or to change your argument.

The best argument for the existence of God is the events that occur in people's lives when they enter into a conscious relationship with God, which are often very improbable.

It is possible to doubt the existence of God, but also possible that your friends and family are also figments of your imagination, but this is usually not so and if you did believe that, many would consider you psychotic.

Answer 2

There is impenetrable immensity in the cosmos that simply would not let anything material to pass thought its great expanses into the secrets of the cosmos. We know now for sure what we speculated once that there are more things in the universe than what meets the eye, and that there is more to the mind than we can with our consciousness capture in information or knowledge. And then when scientists first unlocked the secrets of atom they found nothing but uncertainty, a world that is quite unlike our normal physical world where things can be explain and studied according to the laws and principle of the contemporary science.

The latest questions that science is asking, therefore, are not about the quantum world, or about the world far fetched in the cosmos, about the creation of time, but they are the questions the Newton asked once; what, for instance, is the reason for things to get into arrangements that would follow definite laws. There are irresolvable mysteries on both sides of the extreme; we could not tell how big is big in the universe and how small is small in an atom, but we can still marvel at the universe that is visible to the naked eye, where things grow, they react and interact, where stars shine, clouds float, rains fall, winds blow, rivers run and oceans rage.

What the reason for all this? It is as if the world that we are familiar with were like a beautiful boat upon the surfaces of great wide unknown. What is this boat? Who made it, and what is the journey that it is for? Believe me or not, these are the question that scientists would like to consider for answers.

Answer 3

Ok, to answer your questions;

1. Trees shed their leaves in autumn because they stop producing chlorophyll. Chlorophyll is what allows the plant to feed on the sunlight. Chlorophyll causes the leaves to be green, so without it they change colour. The tree stops producing chlorophyll because there isn't enough sunlight during winter to keep the tree alive; it reduces itself down to be as small as possible. Trees contain a kind of sensor that calculates the amount of sunlight exposure they have. If it's only a short period, it must be getting towards winter, so they start losing their leaves and stop the production of chlorophyll. Of course, some trees are evergreen and lose their leaves slowly throughout the year, replacing them as they go. They can survive with the low amounts of sunlight of winter.

2. The Earth spins because it was spinning when it was formed. Almost everything in the universe spins, galaxies, planets, everything. If you spin a ball, it spins for a little bit and then stops. This is due to friction. Now, remember in space that there is no friction, so once something starts to spin, it will never stop unless someone stops it on purpose. Obviously no one is big enough to grab the Earth in their hand and stop it, so that's why it continues to spin. If we were to build an absolutely huge robotic hand, then yes, we could grab Earth and stop it from spinning (which wouldn't be a good idea!!!) What could have caused it to spin in the first place? Lots of things, an explosion in space, a collision with another big rock, unless we go back in time we can't say for sure.

3. Simple organisms don't learn anything as they don't have a brain, the process occurs naturally. When something has a baby, the baby is never exactly the same as the parents. As more and more babies are produced they are more and more different to the original great-great-grandparents. After millions of years the new babies may be very different to the original. When compared with the original organism, lots and lots of small changes = a big change.

4. There is not really any evidence to say that something must have guided the process. In fact, it would seem to be the opposite;
The Earth has an oval orbit, which does nothing that a circular one wouldn't do.
All the other planets that we have discovered have been too hot or too cold to hold life, making it kind of pointless to have them.
The moon moves away from Earth by an inch every year, this means that eventually we'll lose the moon (which will screw up the tides)!
The magnetic poles of Earth (north and south [the things you follow with a compass]) slowly move further and further along until they flip around, making north south and south north. This has happened many times in the Earth's history and causes great problems. Especially for certain animals which rely on the magnetic poles to know where they are. When the poles change lots of animals may die!
Almost all the species that have existed on Earth are extinct! They didn't evolve into species that could cope with the conditions the Earth had to throw at them.

I hope this helped, I tried to keep it as clear as possible, even though there is a lot of text! :-)

Edit: The Big Bang refers to when the universe began to expand from what was a really hot and dense state at the beginning of our observed spacetime. The gases were formed during the first 20 minutes of our universe's expansion in a process known as nucleosynthesis. This is a really complex topic (as you can imagine the formation of the universe to be) and there's no way that it can be answered sufficiently on Yahoo Answers, if you really want to understand this topic you'll need to study physics to a really high level!

Just remember, if something appears to be really complicated and you don't understand it, you shouldn't just assume that it must have been made by magic or someone made it on purpose. Scientists work very hard every day studying the universe and finding out new facts and as our technology improves we are learning more things. We probably won't know all there is to know for a very long time. If you're really interested in finding out the truth of the universe, go to university, study hard in physics and work on your own research! Good luck! I hope you find the answers you want! :-)

Answer 4

You are right we do not know the reason for all these things but it is intellectual cowardice to invent gods and demons to fill in the gaps in our knowledge.
When Captain James Cook sailed through the South Pacific he came upon a tribe that believed that total eclipses of the sun were caused by a god swallowing the sun so when this occurred the priests told the people that they must have a human sacrifice to get the sun back.
Of course this always worked and the sun came back and as far as they were concerned the priests were right.
Human knowledge advances very slowly and we are not much further forward today than that tribe 200 years ago.

Answer 5

The gasess "for" the big bang? There were no gasses for it. Look up quantum singularities. No gas required.
That is how something comes from nothing.

Or, if you removed the universe you would have an absolute void, where due to there being no physical constraints or parameters you would effectively have a state of infinite probability, and this version of the universe is relegated from unique, delicate and intelligently organised, to being just one inevitable realization/manifestation amongst untold billions.
When you have absolutely nothing, anything can occur over it.

Also, you should read up on evolution, astro-physics, biology....... They have pretty conclusive theories.

Just because we find something impressive, doesn't mean God did it.

Answer 6

In fewer words how can there not be god. Science is HOW god made the universe. God made man and woman to love each other. If god appeared and said obey life wouldn t be a test for the after life.

Answer 7

this argument drives me insane...when I was in 5th grade my teacher said "Do you all know that the average temp. on planet Earth is 54 degrees, and further if that average were just 10 degrees higher or lower that we wouln't even be here?" I said nothing but my 10 year old mind was like what? have you never read any science fiction at all lady?...It is oversimplification for the sake of peace of mind. If I can attribute all these glorious beautiful surroundings to a wonderful loving supernatural being, then I can get a good night's sleep and not have to wonder...cause not knowing is scary...and little babies like to be safe and comfortable

Answer 8

How can there possibly BE a god?
What you are talking about is nature... genetics, evolution. Its science.
What do you think; god is some bloke standing about on his fluffy cloud nicely organising the world?
Well he hasn't made a very good job of it so far has he?

Answer 9

When thinking about how complex the universe is, it is very easy to simply say that you do not understand it and, desperately needing a solution to your question, you reach for the answer "There must be a God." But isn't this a little too simplistic?
And while it may be true that it is very difficult for the average person to try to explain or understand all of the wonders and mysteries of the universe, it is a little naive to reach for this over-simplified answer, especially in the face of the overwhelming evidence that goes against the very notion of there being a God.

Try this site and see what you think
http://www.philosophersnet.com/games/god.htm

Answer 10

Your logic reminds me of the movie “The Gods Must Be Crazy,” a native in the Kalahari Desert encounters technology for the first time--in the shape of a Coke bottle.

I found this to be very amusing, but I also began to see parallels between his thought process, and that of the modern day Theist such as you.

Both of you are using CAVEMAN LOGIC to explain their world. I fail to see the difference between “hmm, bottle fall from sky, must be gods” and “hmm, trees, butterflies, sunsets, complex organisms prove the existence of god.”

In both of these cases, someone is simply replacing one unknown for another unknown, but proving nothing!

Not only can God not be proven, but I will also go so far as to say that God can be disproved. It is impossible for something to be all knowing and all good. If you are aware that something bad is going to happen, and you allow it to happen anyway, then you cannot be all good. If God created everything, then he also created evil. It is also impossible to be all-powerful; can God create a rock that even he himself cannot move?

I would have thought that as man became more knowledgeable and logical that he would have pushed aside his caveman beliefs, but it seems to be just the opposite.