What's the point of having freewill when doing otherwise what God wants you to do will get you punished?

Question

Just really, really curious.
Forget about good and bad and try not to be judgemental or anything first. Just try thinking outside the box.
Let's say there are three choices:
A, B and C.
God gives you freewill but God wants you to choose A because if you choose B or C, you'll get in hell and be punished.

What then is the point of freewill when no matter what you choose, God's A will always get saved and gets to Heaven?

For those who wanna know:
A = Good
B = Bad
C = Neutral

What do you think?
Nothing. This just came up and Im quite disturbed. Really. ><

Answer 1

In the range of A but, we have a huge amount of choices still, should we like good things.

Still if you want to do bad, sure do bad. It is just so that God does not punish you for that as you punish yourself, as what we sow we will reap. This is a law of nature or a law based on physics or energy. So if we like bad things we will then also reap bad things or attract bad things or find heavy things. If we like hell we will then also be allowed to go to hell. God does not punish you, he gives you EXACTLY what YOU WANT.

Answer 2

The notion of a punishing god is sooooo obsolete in today’s world. Organized religions created this nonsense just to keep people under control.
Freewill is the law of cause and effect. The divine blueprint, according to which humans are created, provide us with the guidelines (consciousness) as to how to make proper use of our freewill however the choices we make determine the resulting effects of the expression of our freewill. Every time we make a choice followed by an action we set in motion the wheels of the law of attraction. An action will initiate a ripple of events that will affect our selves and people within the framework of that action. By becoming the cause of an action we are definitely exposing ourselves to the effects of that action; that’s what freewill is all about.

Answer 3

Freewill can be argued to exist on the basis that you are free to choose the consequence... if you so will, you can of course choose to be punished by God.... isn't that what most people are doing anyway?

However, in my view, freewill is a grand illusion boosting our ego (thereby causing more harm than good). Let's look at it this way. This universe is governed by the inviolable principle of cause and effect. Nothing happens unless caused..... and no cause goes without precipitating its effect. In fact the entire range of events happening is nothing but a grand complex chain of cause and effect where every cause brings an effect and that effect then becomes the cause for another effect and so on and on. Hence it is obvious that whatever choices we make are also caused and if we believe the cause is our will then that will is also caused by something else... just because we may be unaware of what caused our will does not mean that we originated it out of nowhere. Moreover, even if we assume there is freewill, it is really impotent in the sense that in the wake of all pervading uncertainty, our willing is no guarantee that what we willed would actually be made to happen... hence what is the point of a freewill that may or may not bear the expected consequence or fruit and we have no way to guarantee the result one way or the other?

So, you may just relax and not take any unnecessary burden on your mind assuming as though you are doing either good or bad by exercising your freewill... the truth is that all of us are just wading in ignorance through uncertain waters and fooling ourselves as though we are or can do either good or bad by willing.

Answer 4

What a refreshingly logical question! It truly is a disturbing concept. It's rather like the myth of Adam & Eve. There are people who believe this--literally. Eve was made from Adam's rib. (Patriarchal?) God provides the "temptation" of the fruit of the tree of knowledge--why? It's a test. To what end, what purpose? Eve is the culprit, of course, & forever after, all are born in sin.
Why, also, does God demand to be worshipped? Isn't this more a human conceit?
God ALLOWS us to go to hell? If bad acts cause bad consequences, what does this have to do with hell? Why would God create such a horrid place for his OWN creations to suffer eternally?
Not all Christians accept this fable, nor do all religions project on gods, their own human traits.
An excellent question, I hope you will get some responses that see the absolute logic in it.

Answer 5

Suppose I jump out from behind a corner, place a gun against your head, and say, "Do as I say and I'll give you a million dollars, but if you don't I'll blow your brains out!"

You still have a choice. Nothing I do can take away that choice. You may cooperate or not. Even more, you can choose to believe that there is no million dollars, that I'll kill you no matter what you do, or that my gun isn't loaded. These are yours.

What I would be doing in that case is NOT trying to take away your free will, but to put my thumb on the scale so heavily that you are compelled to cooperate.

And in most civilized societies, attempting to use threats of monstrous punishment is considered to be only slightly less odious than actually inflicting the punishment on people. It is a destructive use of force. You would be considered a criminal for doing so, and most societies would try and cure you of your malignant tendancies, eject you from their midst, or just kill you to be rid of you.

Why should gods be any different?

Answer 6

Blah blah blah.
Too many long answers.

There is no "free will" by any definition. As Small verbosely expressed... our actions, including our "will" are products of causality and by no means an "initial step".
Furthermore.... the whole heaven or hell thing isn't so much an open choice as Blackmail..... or at the very least a Hobson's Choice.

Furthermore... christians often claim that it is a means of testing worthiness of people.... but to what end? Where is the need for testing when those in "heaven" supposedly cannot do wrong regardless. It implies quite strongly a god that is unsure of the quality of his own creations.... NOT the act of a "perfect" being.


In short... the whole thing is bullsh!t.

Answer 7

Firstly how dod u know god exist?
About freewil..... I feel its just a word in the dictionary.. which really has no practical sense. cause if there really was somthing known as freewill... we could decide FREELY without anything preventing us from chosing what we want.
How here there is Gos so even if we want to chose B or C we are forced to chose A...

FREEWILL DOES NOT EXIST IN THIS WORLD

Cause for every choice of r own (if it is bad) we r always punished

Answer 8

Freewill is something that makes us a person. take away the freewill and we will be reduced into a beast. It is what makes us think - being a rational being.

For some actions , every which way will lead to different outcome which may not lethal.

However, when it pertains to going to hell as punishment for our actions, God makes sure we know the right choice.

Freewill is a gift that God gave us, that we voluntarily succomb to the right path. It wont be a gift if God will leave us clueless. Being a person, we have to make choices.

In classroom test , you cannot blame the teacher for giving you a failure if He provided you with the correct answer. All you have to do is write it in your testpaper.

Answer 9

No one has free will. God sends us to this stupid planet...we first have to abide by mommy and daddy's rules, then the rules of a daycare worker, then the rules of the institution of a school and all your teachers rules, [sounds like "Another Brick in The Wall" by Pink Floyd]... then you have to answer to your peers...and best you wear what's in fashion at the time, and do everything that they are doing [like start smoking dope and partying with them] lest you be bullied by them...then there's college and hazing that goes with that, then there's finding a job and having to work under the bosses rules and complying with all your co-workers...then there's a possible mate that you hook up with and have to tend to every one of his or her whims, then if you leave home and get married and you have children, you are tied down with looking after them...buying a home for your family, working your *** off to pay the mortgage and all the bills, your taxes, as well as paying for food, clothing, [the essentials to living] etc...until you drop dead of a heart attack from all the stresses in your life - from an extreme lack of free will throughout your entire existence on this planet. Oh, there's another thing, if you're lucky not to have to go through with all of the above, there's another nasty
unfree will thing that you might be dragged into......war.
And with all of this, you don't think that we're not going to make mistakes along the way...NO ONE can be perfect in an imperfect world. You cannot please God no matter how hard you try.

Answer 10

We have freewill, not because of some mythical god, but because that is how we evolved. Of course religious people will trot out the "Freewill" argument to excuse the fact that god has, to my knowledge, never rescued anyone. To quote Douglas Adams. 'You don't have believe that fairy's live at the bottom of your garden to see its beauty'

Answer 11

Christians ignore to point their bible mentions that the military of angels changed into a million/3. This does have importance. It also ability there are a minimum of three possibilities, no longer 2 as they could have all and assorted else trust.