i just never got that. If you were pregnant and murderer murders you he/she gets counted for two murders but with abortion its not the same story?
2007-11-15 10:13:20 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Law & Ethics
well you see im on debate team and the pro-choice people are saying that the fetus doesn't count as a human but why is it in murder?
2007-11-15 10:25:29 · update #1
This is a very good question as it pertains to the definition of life. In the case of the murder victim, the unborn is considered to be alive and a separate victim of the crime. Many abortion rights advocates try to stipulate that a fetus is not alive and therefore a woman has the right to terminate a pregnancy whenever she chooses. I'm not trying to argue for or against that right. I'm simply questioning the logic behind defining the fetus as a non-living object. I believe that it is a tool used to trick themselves into being able to do something they could not bring themselves to do if they admitted the truth. They are killing a child. A fetus is alive. People make hard choices all the time. If you think the best thing for your child is to kill it before it is born, I'm not here to second guess you. I just don't understand the need to delude yourself if you truly believe you are doing the right thing. If someone else killed your baby you'd call it murder, but if you do it it is just a medical procedure? I just wish they would be honest with themselves, then I can support whatever decision they make.
Kristen Knows- So if you murder a pregnant woman who was going to get an abortion it is only one murder, because she didn't want the baby?
Saying that a life only has value if it is wanted is a dangerous precedent. How old does a child have to be to have value independent of whether or not it is wanted? Can any unwanted person be disposed of without consequence?
Enigma- The 14th Amendment provides for equal protection under the law. There is nothing in it about abortions. And one could apply the protections of the 14th Amendment to the unborn to say that abortion is unconstitutional, because it deprives the fetus of life without due process of law. One could also look at the legal implications of the parental rights of the father being stripped away without due process. If you are in a debate these are all good topics to bring up.
2007-11-15 10:30:54 · answer #1 · answered by James L 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
With an abortion the mother had the right of chose to abort the baby. Under the 14th amendment she was given this right, so when she aborts the baby it is well within her rights as an American.
When a killer kills a pregnant women, he is not only killing the mother but a baby that was going to be born. Most importantly a baby that the mother wanted and was going to care for.
I will give you that it does question is the baby a live and so on, but abortion is a very complex topic. This is just how the laws turned out.
It also makes sense in terms of human nature. Americans are very harsh on rapists and child murderers. So you can see why people who kill a pregnant women would be treated just as hard.
2007-11-15 10:21:30 · answer #2 · answered by Enigma 2 · 0⤊ 2⤋
This is an issue of women's rights. No one has the right to murder a woman and her unborn child. But if a woman becomes pregnant, she has the right to abort. Abortion is a very touchy subject. My views are, if a woman is raped and becomes pregnant as a result, she has all rights to abort an un ask for or wonted child. If a woman has sex of her on will, knowing that she may become pregnant, and does so, then to abort is murder in my book. .
2007-11-15 10:32:55 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Getting hit by a car isn't something a pregnant women can choose to do. Getting murdered by a person while pregnant isn't something that she didn't choose to do either. But an abortion is the mothers choice on if she's not ready for that child she's about to have. I mean it's more reasons than that too. People get raped and end up pregnant. People know they aren't financially stable enough and some people are just not ready for kids at all.
2007-11-15 10:20:16 · answer #4 · answered by ikea t 2 · 1⤊ 3⤋
It makes complete sense.
Abortion is a choice.
Murder is not.
If someone kills you, you didn't want that to happen did you?
If you have an abortion, you most likely made the decision yourself.
You know this is a hugely debated topic, it was dumb of you to ask this.
Also just to clarify, if you murder a pregnant woman, you are killing two people. She wanted to be alive and most likely she wanted her baby to be alive as well. Two murders. Simple.
2007-11-15 10:19:18 · answer #5 · answered by Kristiin Knows 3 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Abortion may be a choice to you all, but it's murder, in plain English. You must all think that when a baby is growing in your body, it's not a baby yet. But it's growing and breathing and feeding off of you, so it's alive. I'll never understand how people can be so numb as to murder an innocent child just because they don't want to take responsbiity for it. Your day is coming because God knows everything you do. I pray for you all except you, the person who asked this question.
2007-11-15 10:24:30 · answer #6 · answered by angeleyes 3 · 2⤊ 4⤋
No, if you abort a viable fetus against the woman's wishes it is also murder.
2007-11-15 10:19:21 · answer #7 · answered by phab_4 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Getting abused or murdered is not a choice . . . having an abortion is.
2007-11-15 10:17:14 · answer #8 · answered by CURRIEND 2 · 2⤊ 1⤋
in a sick way I guess it's becuase the murderer does not have the permission of the mother to kill her child, but with abortion the doctor does
2007-11-15 10:23:25 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
It is a womans choice to get an abortion. When you kill a pregnant woman you took that choice away from her.
2007-11-15 10:17:13 · answer #10 · answered by nighttimegodess 3 · 4⤊ 2⤋