Are Democrats still in denial?

Question

The surge is working, and having a very positive effect. Also, on another note… Here is a very interesting statistic… during the past 6 years BEFORE the Iraq war, PEACE time military deaths totaled around 4,980; during war time ( last 6 years ) the number of deaths is less than 4,000 U.S. soldiers, 8,000 deaths from drunk driving, 1,500 drug/gang related deaths… I am not promoting the war. My point is the where is the outcry for domestic homicides which are far greater and yet seem to be acceptable, at least the silence would seem to make it so. Here is another example of how repugnant political correctness has evolved…

http://www.yahoo.com/s/736772

Answer 1

I wish everyone in this country seen through your eyes.
The democratic party is a disgrace to the American way of life.
President Bush's approval rating as low as it is, still is higher than the democratic controlled congress.
Wake up America.
Thanks for bringing up the real facts.

Answer 2

Any loss in a war is a tragedy. War is sometimes a necessary evil, however the premature invasion of Iraqi was voluntary which only adds to the tragedy of all those lost lives. I am very curious as to there the peace time death total of 4980 soldiers came from. That does seem inflated, unless of course you are counting the veterans.

I hear that the surge is working, however there is still a huge problem with sectarian violence, we are still loosing the men and women who had the bravery to do the most noble service and sign to fight. There is still no plan in place as to how hand Iraq back over to the Iraqi people. We have thousands of military "contractors" out there who are not even counted within our losses and due to recent behavior seem to be creating and even greater rift between the American and Iraqi people.

Answer 3

Invading Iraq was a stupid idea doomed to failure – and nothing has changed. Every non-partisan Middle East expert in the world predicted that the most likely outcome of invading Iraq would be a civil war and regional destabilization. Actually, anyone with the slightest real knowledge of the region knew this to be true.

The President’s own father knew it and said so in his 1998 book, ‘A World Transformed’. Colin Powell (then Secretary of State) told Dubya, “If you break it [Iraq], then you own it”.
The first Gulf War commander "Stormin" Norman Schwarzkopf knew it, saying that if America invaded Iraq it would be a, “dinosaur in a tar pit”. Hell, even evil Dick Cheney had said it would become a quagmire.

Conservatives rag on Democrats for not having a plan (which is true, they don’t) to hide the fact that they also do not have – and never have had – a plan either. The fact is that there is no ‘plan’ that produces a single positive for America. We are going to leave; the only question is when. Politically, and in terms of Iraq’s future, leaving tomorrow or next year is no different that if we had left yesterday or last year.

Well, there is the difference of the numbers of wounded and dead; the families destroyed; and the further loss of America’s standing in the world by staying. At least that is the conclusion reached in recent reports by the US Department of State and a consensus of America’s 16 Intelligence Agencies. But what do they know, huh? Maybe the Bush strategy of endlessly screwing ourselves will ultimately bring the terrorists to their knees – in laughter, anyway.

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“2007 now the deadliest year for U.S. troops in Iraq”

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/06/iraq.main/index.html

“United States military casualties in Iraq are running at more than twice the number most Americans have been led to believe they are.”

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/08/04/1059849347169.html

“US soldiers in Iraq suffer horrific brain and mental injuries”

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/nov2004/sold-n20.shtml

“Troop death rate highest since Vietnam War”

http://media.www.thetraveleronline.com/media/storage/paper688/news/2004/04/19/News/Troop.Death.Rate.Highest.Since.Vietnam.War-663723.shtml

Answer 4

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Answer 5

There is no denial at all. It is silly to compare crime statistics to war statistics. That is similar to comparing two crimes and saying that because the death toll is higher for drunk driving, it is therefore a more serious crime. One death is too much when it can and should be avoided. Fatalities on the road or due to domestic violenec are not more acceptable. They are also not directly caused by government policy.

Answer 6

Great...the surge is working...so we can bring our troops home now?

So they can no longer be a part of an illegal invasion for oil?

I guess they'll be staying there to protect Halliburton's interests. They don't get a say in the matter, they just do their jobs. The policy makers make sure that they protect Halliburton's interests.

Answer 7

so how exactly does your Santa link support your argument on the Iraq war?

the wounded/maimed in Iraq not tops 25,000. the ratio of wounded to killed is 8:1

Answer 8

Those figures are so wrong. We're not in denial. The surge was a waste of money and lives, as is this entire illegal war.

Answer 9

Saying the surge is working is like shipping all your valuables DIRECTLY to the thieves in your town and claiming this reduces the crime rate.

Rush tried this tactic, but of course he had to LIE to do it, since it's a bogus comparision.

"Philadelphia's murder rate is higher than the deathrate of soldiers in Iraq, should we abandon Philadelphia to the murderers?"

The lies come from the fact there were 1.4 million people in Philly in 2006 and 406 homicides, giving Philly a murder rate of less than 29 per 100,000 people.

821 soldiers were killed in Iraq, out of a total force of between 127,900, and 144,000, making a murder rate of at LEAST 570 per 100,000.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200702020017

So lets stop the lies and start dealing with truths. I know truth to a Neo Con is like garlic to a vampire, but you REALLY need to stop listening to Rush Limbaugh. He lies to you.

Answer 10

Yes, democrats are in denial. 120 Veterans per week die from suicide, according to CBS news, and that is more than Iraq. And the Democrats couldnt even get the Veterans bill passed by Veterans Day. How many more Vets have to die (120 per week is 17 per day) before the Democrats quit squabbling and give the Veterans their benefits?

Answer 11

Are you still in denial that you voted for Bush and he has done an absolutely horrid job since the day he stepped foot in the White House?

Obviously you are.