Have you checked out the wacky, nutcase, loony, fruitloop crap Mormons believe?

Question

I want to see the evidence Jesus sailed the ocean blue!

First they laugh, then they accept and you win.

I don't have anything fruitloop, if you would like to assume something and have a debate based on that, go ahead.

Ritch, religion should not be beyond scrutiny.

Answer 1

Religious people believe alot of looney crap, but I agree the Mormon story doesn't have any historical relevance at all either, it's amazing people think they need to believe anything without proof, blind faith, stupid.

Answer 2

There are many many individual personal stories of such. I have heard a few, but there is nothing written or scripture. I think it would be a very personal matter , much like personal revelation. But really, God helps the faithful of any religion, tongue, color, or creed. I don't really think the garment (symbolic of the animal skin clothing the Lord placed on Adam and Eve) would be too helpful to anyone that was doing something they shouldn't do. Mine are a constant reminder to me of the Covenants I have made with the Lord. Not magical, just sacred and personal.

Answer 3

I have read the book of Mormon, and I don't agree with a lot of it. I don't have to, I am not a Mormon.
The reason I read it is because I was intrigued by a religion that inspired such a large percentage of it's adherents to actually, devoutly, practice their religion. I don't think that many organized religions can claim similar devotion.
These people, as a group are some of the finest people I have ever met. They take care of their own, they encourage self reliance among their membership, but they act as their own safety net. Check the numbers, Mormons don't go on welfare. They take responsibility for themselves and the community they live in. They do not expect the government to take care of them.
They have large families, and they take care of them. They believe that education is important, and they encourage it. BYU is one of the finest universities in the country. They send their children out as missionaries, for 2 year terms, during which these missionaries live on their own savings, not money provided by the Church or their families. When they are on missions, they volunteer their time to help anyone who needs it, and ask nothing in return.
They are totally involved in their Churches and their community. If anyone in the community is in need, they will help.
It seems to me that while we may have very little use for their theology, it seems to be working for them, and I applaud them.
Faith isn't based on the believable, otherwise, it wouldn't be faith.
Maybe if the rest of us could wrap our very analytical minds around something just as "nutty", we would be better off as a society.
I think that in the ways that count, the Mormons are a positive example to all the rest of us, one that we would be better off if we followed.

Answer 4

One of my best friends in life is a Mormon. His family was responsible, kind, and loving. I did not agree with all his beliefs and he did not agree with all of mine (Protestant Christian). If you claim to be a Christian, have YOU checked out all the wacky, nutcase, loony, fruitloop stories in our Bible?! It would certainly take faith for a person to believe them, as well.

I think that being like Jesus (what I was taught Christians should strive for) involves accepting other people. This rant is an example of the opposite.

Answer 5

The odd thing about Mormonism is that it is build around the concept of Socialism. For instance, in evangelical Churches, your tithes go to support your church or missions they contribute to. In the Mormon temple, your money goes to Salt Lake City and gets evenly redistributed among all of the temples. The Church is heavily controlled by the leadership in Salt Lake City, sort of like a totalitarianistic government would be.
Yet, Mormons themselves are them most Conservative people you'll ever meet.
I won't bash them.. the ones I know tend to work very hard and are extremely honest and trustworthy.

Answer 6

Mormons are emotional, psychological and spiritual captives of the Mormon Church. The Mormon church does not have the same relationship with their followers that Baptists or Catholics have with theirs. An adherent is "consumed" by Mormonism. They are given over to it socially and in terms of family. They spend endless hours in its service, and they are bound by its laws to practise it's beliefs in every area of their lives. There is no "separation of church and state" in Mormonism.

Mormons believe that the Garden of Eden is in the USA. They believe that all Churches are blinded by corruption, except the Mormon Church. They believe that entrance to the highest Heavens requires secret handshakes. They believe that all Mormons must wear special underwear; "the full armor of the lord", as this underwear provides spiritual protection. They believe that Jesus Christ was created in the same way that all people were created... that Jesus is not God, except in the same way that Mormom men can become Gods in the next life. they believe that God was once a man who was raised to Godhood by another God. They believe that Black people committed transgressions in a prior life that have limited their involvement in the Mormon Church (until recently, because of government pressure).

The list of their bizarre beliefs is a long one, and much more extensive than the few points I've expressed here. They are certainly in strong conflict with Christian beliefs (though they keep calling themselves a "Christian religion").

A Mormon in the White House would put his Church and Mormon beliefs first. He would put the "will of the people" second... or ignore their will entirely for the sake of upholding "Mormon truth"

Answer 7

yes it seems rather strange to me that a lot of their beliefs from some books that have never been seems since and some magic glasses that allowed reading which also have never been seen since doesn't make any sense at all to me.

saying that, Romney seems to be a moral person and if elected i think he would put America first as Kennedy, the first catholic president did. i recall the debate about his loyalty being to the pope rather than America in his campaign but it didn't turn out that way. i think he would do okay, if elected but i doubt he will be the candidate chosen.

Answer 8

It's pretty wild stuff indeed, but I have to say that looked at from an objective standpoint the Christian "story" is no less wild on its face. When people in general are willing to believe fantastical storytelling from countless generations ago where does one draw the line? At a "little less" fantastical or a "little more" fantastical? Both require a willingness to suspend logical disbelief, so why is one better than the other?

Answer 9

You mean crazy like:
We believe in God the Eternal Father, and in his son Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
or is the craziness that We believe that through the atonement of Jesus Christ, all mankind may be saved, or is it that We believe in being honest, true chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly, we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the Word of God.
those are directly from the Articles of Faith of the LDS Church.
Call me crazy, but I do believe that a little more of those things would be a good thing.
I'm not sure where you get your info, but it sounds like deception to me. Maybe Im just a fruitcake!

Answer 10

Yes, actually. But I cannot fault their moral influence, and since the US Constitution requires separation of church and state, I'm not persuaded the personal religious beliefs of a candidate will matter in the next election. Character, stability and experience will matter and the Mormon running seems to exhibit these.

ADDED: I enjoyed watching Paul, the dreamer on Face the Nation yesterday. Particularly when he said his internet supporters were doing such a great job for him. LOL

Answer 11

They also think that Yeshua has blond hair and blue eyes.

But Yeshua was actually a Black Hebrew from the House of David.

http://www.godonthe.net/wasblack.htm