Remove bad teachers, says adviser?

Question

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7088383.stm

Sub-standard teachers should be removed from schools to make way for better colleagues, a key government education adviser has suggested.
Sir Cyril Taylor said there were about 17,000 "poor" teachers in England.
They were unable to control classes and were damaging the education of about 400,000 children, he told the BBC.
But head teachers said it was sometimes difficult to recruit good staff, while teachers said their job was made harder by issues such as paperwork.

do you agree that "poor" teachers should be sacked, who will teach the classes without them, do we have any "good teachers"

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Answer 1

I am sick and tired of teachers being blamed for everything.
Kids get sent to school without any sense of limits or boundaries to their behaviour. Everything that goes wrong in the system is blamed on "poor teachers " . I see some of the answerers here already slagging off teachers. Where is the responsibility of the parents who completely fail to teach their children basic good behaviour.

I have said a million times how much I would love to videotape some of my classes and play them back to parents. Many , many parents would get a shock seeing how their children behave or fail to behave and have no respect for the rest of the class.

"Poor" teachers? Yes they exist like "poor" doctors "poor" taxi drivers and "poor" everything else. But let me tell you they are few and far between.

Most teachers enter the profession with high ideals, enthusiasm and a real desire to change lives. Many times it´s knocked out of us by narky -arsed parents who complain about everything without knowing what they are talking about.

I don´t question the skills of every professional I meet , but it´s constantly open season on teachers.

I became a teacher because I had a vocation to teach. I love my job and I love my classes., but boy am I sick and tired of the constant knocking of my profession and the complete lack of respect in which teachers are now held.

Answer 2

Sir Cyril Taylor should go down on his bended knees that there are any teachers left in schools today. I wouldn't have anything to do with a school anymore. 10 years ago when i voluntarily gave my time to help i had rude, ill disciplined, spoilt bratts to contend with who would not allow a teacher to do their job. I shouted at them and made them leave the room - how did that go down ? They were mortified, basically because i called them rubbish, time wasters, illiterate etc etc but it did the trick. The rest of the class got the benefit of my valuable time to help them with their career projects and the idiots got and learned nothing because i would not allow them back in any lesson that i was a part of after that. On parents evening i was one of the most popular volunteers at the school and got a great deal of thanks from the parents who wholeheartedly supported me.
When is this stupid government going to wake up and realise that their changes over the last ten years have only made things worse and introducing the human rights act has almost made thing intollerable ? Teachers are not allowed to shout at pupils, nor discipline them to the extent that a child accepts a punishment - they just will not. You cannot force a child into detention nor can you now exclude them from school for not doing that detention or some busybody will make it their business to make the school take the child back but not until both the school and the education system have paid financially, sorry of course i meant the TAX PAYER. How many of these wilfull children come from homes where there is no taxpayer ? There are lots of good teachers out there who are thoroughly demoralised - educations was supposed to have been their career.
Sir Cyril Taylor should be relieved of his position!!!!!

Answer 3

In real life a teacher could be considered "poor" because of being on the wrong side on in-school politics, or from having enough integrity to complain about problems in the school, or from having a run-in with a loud parent who is the cause of a child's bad grades and now has it in for them.

I would bet a bureaucrat like that has never been in a school since he graduated and has no idea what is really going on.

Answer 4

I'm a hard working teacher - I have rules and boundaries and I love being in the classroom I think I'm one of the lucky ones - but I strongly agree - sack the bad teachers - but d'you know how hard it is to actually get rid of a bad teacher? If they were in industry they wouldn't last a month.

There are teachers on here who can't spell or construct a sentence - thank goodness they've opted out - for the sake of the kids

Answer 5

Maybe the first to go should be the substandard advisers.

There are also the sub standard pupils the sub standard class sizes the sub standard resources etc etc

Not least is this sub standard government

The sub standard teachers are well down the list of what needs fixing!

Then we have the innumeracy of the likes of Woodhead et all who invent statistics and pretend they have a factual basis.

Answer 6

Poor teachers have destroyed many children's education. My partner, due to teachers who could not control their classes, was unable to learn, concentrate or even be able to sit at his desk without being menaced by out of control kids.

Teachers who cannot do their job proper should be removed, as they are doing far more harm than good.

I believe that teachers who do their jobs well and have good discipline in their classes need support, reduced paperwork, and someone to listen to their ideas on improving classroom behaviour, etc.

I was lucky enough to have dedicated teachers who treated their job as a vocation as apposed to doing something to pay the bills.

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Answer 7

the primary school my son goes to has recently had a bad ofsted report. the school has always had a good reputation in the past. instead of sacking anyone the teachers have been swapping places with teachers from schools with exellent reports. we've already noticed better teaching and better communication with parents. parents cooperation is essential. soon our school will be as it once was.

Answer 8

I´can see nothing wrong in sacking poor teachers but their bosses may be worse and the government may be worse than that. The point then would be who should go!

Answer 9

There are a lot of bad and indifferent teachers, especially in the primary sector, also the same goes for a lot of heads of primary schools

Answer 10

unfortunately we do have a small minority of bad teachers
some of them can bully people or allow bullying and get away with it
some like the power being a teacher gives them
i have seen teachers work without a lesson plan and have not researched their subject and are appauling
we also have some brilliant inspiring teachers who are a credit to their proffesion