Holocaust?

Question

i have some questions about the holocaust but upfront im not a hater of jews or a nazi so dont label me as either please.

1-i realize the holocaust happened but why is it that it seems only jews are the ones who are the victims of it. their were also blacks gypsies cripled people political figures etc i realize a big portion were jews but that was a big time religion and still is to an extent so were they persecuted just for being jews?

2-Ive read that the anne frank diary was written in ball point pen yet it wasnt invented untill after WWII is that the truth and if so does it disprove some of the holocaust.

3-Was the US to blame partly for the holocaust for not doing anything when they clearly new about it (visual evidence and refugees)

4-Ive read that their have been studies that showed that their is no gas residue on the so called gas showers?

5-Has their ever been a formal investigation to prove the holocaust or is it more less just everyone saying it happened.

6-I realize hitler hated jews but was it a reason to kill them or could he have just wanted to do something simular to what america did during b4 the civil rights era and just discriminate against them?

7-Do the people who were put in the camp really know why they were put in their? lets face it the Nazi's were very extreme and they likely just put people in their and didnt tell them why so are they really the people to ask why they were their?

8-the reason i ask is if we looked back at WWII and said a large number of americans killed were catholics (this is hypothetical) would we say americans were hating of catholics?

9-Is their some possibility it was to an extent a hoax granted it happened but the information around it could have been misconstrued to create reason for israel?

10-has their ever been an official study showing hitler was a jew? i know their have always been rumors but any facts?

thank u and once again i do not hate jews and am far from being a nazi

wow ok im not "ignorant" im asking legitimate questions. No nuremburg was not a study to prove how jews were singled out for death it was to prove the holocaust happened the holocaust was the murders of millions of people not just jews. i was just asking questions and it seems that when people ask these questions (yes they are asked and no not all are skinhead nazi's) that its shot right down why is that? the questions should be allowed to be asked and the person not be belittled nothing i said in this was out of line. also someone sited the solgiers memroirs i have no dougbt the holocaust happened my question was why were jews the main entity around that? their were other groups we didnt create a gypsie homeland, a homosexual homeland a black homeland etc thats my point

Answer 1

I am not going to label you anti-semitic, but I have to say you are very ignorant about the Holocaust and the final solution. A lot of the questions you ask have been answered multiple times in almost every account of Nazi Germany. I will do my best to give you unbiased, factual answers to your questions.

1. There were many other groups that were persecuted during the Holocaust, you are correct in that assumption; however, no Holocaust scholar would ever say that the Jewish people were the only victims. It is impossible to answer "why is it that it seems jews were the only victims..." because honestly, it doesn't seem that way at all. However, you seem to not realize that the Jewish were persecuted specifically because of their ethnicity.

2. First, the ball point pen was patented in 1888 by John Loud. Second, even if Frank's story wasn't true (which it is), it wouldn't disprove the Holocaust by any means; there were many other accounts that prove the existence of a Nazi attempt to eradicate the Jewish race.

3. The US govt. has argued that it was not sufficiently aware of what was happening in Germany at the time, whether or not that is true is debatable. I would agree that the US and all other Allied countries were to blame in some degree.

4. You should question the source of the so called "studies." I doubt they were in any reputable scientific journal. In fact, there was documented use of gas at Birkneau.

5. There was a formal investigation, it was called the Nuremberg Trials, it happened after WWII and multiple Nazi officials were found guilty of war crimes.

6. Originally Hitler wanted to send all of the Jewish people to a reservation in Russia. After Germany's failed invasion of Russia, Hitler decided to send the people to Madagascar. However, this was found to be impossible because of the Allied presence in Africa and at this point Hitler constructed his "Final Solution to the Jewish Question," where he decided to exterminate the entire Jewish race.

7. Yes, they were well aware of what was going on. Hitler had already created Jewish ghettos to separate the people from other Germans. There were many tales circulating through the ghetto of extermination camps (the information had come from escaped prisoners) Read Elie Wiesel's autobiographical tale "Night" for one example of this.

8. Catholicism is a religion, not a race, so this analogy doesn't apply. It would be more like saying "during WW2 Americans tried to kill off all of the Anglos"

9. ABSOLUTELY NOT! Israel had been struggling for independence since the British Mandate of Palestine after world war 1.

10. Hitler could not have been Jewish, the German factor for determining this was based on your Grandparents. Since none of his 4 grandparents were Jewish, he would not be consider to be one either.

Answer 2

I'll give this a shot:

1. Correct, many other groups of European including German citizens, were exterminated by the Nazis. Political victims were rampant since most Germans were not actually card carrying Nazis.
Other ethnic groups were resoundingly persecuted as you mentioned.
2. neo Nazis and other right wing radicals have made a concerted attempt to discredit both Anne's diary and the entire holocaust. These efforts are the work of painfully ignorant xenophobes and other disturbed "true" believers.
3. We did stand by while the Nazis killed people wholesale. Before Hitler was forced to take the cowards way out, the Nazi government offered to - sell - to the USA, Jews for $250 each or a family of any size for $750.
We sanctimoniously refused the offer for the official reason that we, as a nation, did not traffic in human lives. The actual reason probably had more to do with an underlying serious prejudice against ethnic minorities in general and Jewish people in particular.
But, I think we can agree that..." we don't traffic in human cargo" sounds so much better than the truth, don't Ya think?
I have seen one camp and only a complete idiot would try to convince themselves they did not happen. Of course, there is not now, nor has there ever been, a shortage of...idiots!
I imagine that, at this point, the only person who need another investigation on the holocaust would be one of those retarded neo Nazis or some right wing imbecile.

I understand that some so called "conservative" Americans have embraced the "no - holocaust BS. This is not surprising since these same indsividuals appear to be, sall we say, mentally challenged!

Answer 3

It was not just Jewish people that were persecuted, it was also homosexuals, the disabled, and the opposition. The first ball point pen was first invented in 1888 by the Biro company. The US did not initiate help in Europe immediatly as they were still recovering from WWI, until the events of Pearl Harbour. Whether or not they are to blame is debatable. How can you be sure that they could have prevented some of what happened by entering the War early? The evidence provided that the Holocaust never occured, in my opinion, is just people stirring things up for controversy. There is plenty of evidence supporting the fact that the Hollocaust occured, including books written by survivors, and physical evidence such as the camps etc.

A little more research would go a long way in answering most, if not all of these questions.

Answer 4

1) The entire world was antisemitic at the time. Hitler used this to dehumanize them and thus kill them. He really believed they were subhuman. He needed a scapegoat to take the gaze of the masses away from the rights he was taking away from the German people onto something else.
2)Wrong.
3) No country but the Germans were to blame. Could we have stopped it sooner? The Generals thought that focusing on the camps would hurt and prolong the war. If we were to end the war, the camps would be closed forever.
4) Statements made by holocust disprovers. Lies.
5) Yes, after the war. The Nazi's were GREAT record keepers.
I can't read your updates to answer them. from this page.

Answer 5

1. yes, there are a lot of other victims of the holocaust other than just the jews... i don't know what they teach in most high schools because i was homeschooled, but i am a history major in college and we definitely talk about the other groups too.

2. i have no idea about that. i haven't heard about it.

3. the US did do something! it took a while for them to join into WWII, but think, they had just gone through a deadly war and the great depression, would YOU have wanted to get involved in another war so quickly? the reason nothing was done earlier was because people were afraid of Hitler staring a war. once it became apparent that he was going to anyway, there was no avoiding him.

4. i don't know about that either.

5. i don't know about a "formal investigation" but there are so many personal accounts, pictuers and film clips, documents, and then the actual concentration camps themselves... i don't see how anyone could have just made it up.

Answer 6

I'm not even going to try to answer your questions point-by-point. I'm just going to tell you where to look. You need to read things like: the memoirs of soldiers who liberated the camps, the memoirs of victims of the camps, records of the Nuremburg Trials, etc

Yes, this terrible thing happened. Millions of people died in an organized, systematic genocidal machine. We know who a considerable number of them were because they left behind records in some form. We have corroborating evidence from thousands of unrelated individuals.

Answer 7

In their memoirs of WW2, neither DeGaul, Churchill, nor Eisenhower mentioned anything about a Holocaust. It was not "invented" until the early 1950s.

Answer 8

It is because of the way the Jews were slaughtered. Holocaust comes form the Greek word holokaustus, which means to burn or consume by fire. Those others slaughters did not utilize the means of fire as did the Nazis.

Answer 9

Dude, give us a break. If you really want well-balanced answers, post each of these ten questions separately. Not right to only get two points for addressing all of this, right?

EDIT: Kudos to you, LSU. Excellent.