Why do you think masculine men attract the most beautiful women and feminine women attract the best husbands?

Question

Thats nature. Its unnatural for men to be submissive and women to be domineering. Thats why feminism can never truely succeed.

The type of equality feminist want can never work. Humans were not ment to live in a Man=Woman fasion. Most relationships where the woman is dominant over the man are unhealthy and unhappy for both sides.

Each gender has its thing. Why should the world change because 35% of women in America think being submissive and feminine is demeaning?

I'm sure everything started out with men in charge for a reason.

I spelled "Fashion" wrong.. I know

"Jurydoc" But even there.. there is no 'equality'.. the women are dominating. Men are women cannot live Man=Woman.. it just doesn't work. There has to be a leader and a follower. Always..

"Embroy Halo" Don't be ignorant. Saying submissiveness is subjective is like saying the color red is subjective.

"Spuddy" Hmmmm... what basis do I have? How about the fact that we DON'T live that way and never have? It doesn't work.

Answer 1

What an ethnocentric perspective, to begin with. You do realize, don't you, that there are many human cultures in which the female has the "dominant" position?? And they have been surviving considerably longer than the American society. There is nothing in human "nature" that determines that situation. It is a learned acculturation that does it.

Answer 2

I think that if a person comes with the perspective that women must have ALL been "forced" into certain roles, the idea of being able to "liberate" those women is very appealing. However, some women, (perhaps many or most - it's hard to say) will always want to, and have always wanted to be traditional wives and mothers. There is a lot of human nature and human desire wrapped up in traditional roles, and to think that passing legislation is going to overthrow biology is an act of hubris.

However, I do think that the great work of feminism, to accept other women who choose to do other things with their lives, is quite valid. There have always been some portion of women who prefer a life of education or career over childrearing - from the nuns of the middle ages all the way to present day.

However, we needn't insult those women who freely choose to embrace the very common biological reality of a "feminine" woman. I need no pity from feminists. The women of the Western world now have choices, and many still choose a traditional role - and this is proof enough that there is more to it than "the patriarchy at work".

Answer 3

I am very submissive and work well with people that are dominant. That is just me. Most men are dominant I think so I would have to say it would be easy for me to find someone compatible. I embrace my femininity but I am also the best IT technician at work. I make more than most of the guys I date and I feel like we should work together on the housework and then we can do something together later or go out with friends. In todays world, there are a lot more job oppurtunities out there for women.

Answer 4

You set up a false dichotomy even within your initial question. You say that masculine men attract beautiful women and then pair that with feminine women attracting best husbands. Beautiful and best are not the same qualities, nor are they even close to having the same definitional standards. On top of all of this, both beautiful and best are subjective words, meaning that people place independent values on them to have the words conform to personal standards.

You then go on to say that equality feminism can not work because relationships where women are dominate are unhealthy and unhappy. Equality means that neither partner is dominate, not that women are dominate. And again, healthy and happy are subjective terms.

My issues with your grammar and syntax will probably be seen as an avoidance of the issues at hand. Tis not so. The issues at hand are unavoidably muddled within a lack of language skills. Subjective terminology which can be altered and made to fit within any parameters does not allow one to intelligently discuss, but to muddle about trying to force each side to come to an agreement which can not be reached. Clear communication is the key to positive, enlightened debate.

Answer 5

Well, I'm a macho gay guy, and I suppose I am attracted to masculine guys, but I mean those men who wear their masculinity casually; the sort of guys you can kick back with and drink a beer and watch a football game with. For me, feminine guys just don't cut it, relationship-wise, although I've had sex with feminine guys, and gotten off on the fact that they are excited to be with a masculine man. That's been more of a "hit it and quit it" thing, though.

Answer 6

That might be how it works on a grand scale, but some individual men are more submissive than others, and some individual women are more dominant than others. The people who should be in charge are the ones who are the most qualified for it. If those people happen to be women, we'll just have to deal somehow.

Answer 7

the definiton of "best husband" will vary widely, as will the definition of "feminine" and "masculine" and "most beautiful" so your entire premise is completely subjective.

and then you just fall into a tirade of stereotypes that doesn't make sense. you don't seem to understand that in an *EQUITABLE* relationship, neither the man nor the woman is domineering or submissive a majority of the time.

& exaclty how do you *know* how everything started out??
[no one can claim to know what the entirety of human history has entailed.]

edit: it's "EMBER" and i didn't say anything about *submissive* being subjective.
i worry about your reading comprehension skills...

Answer 8

I'm pretty sure that my idea of a perfect husband and a more sterotypically feminine and submissive woman's idea of a perfect husband wouldn't match up. So we might both come out thinking we had the best husbands FOR US and not be wrong.

Answer 9

I do not believe feminism is about women being domineering and men being submissive. So yes, you are correct, a relationship set up like that is mostly likely doomed to fail. Likewise, a relationship where the man is domineering and the woman is submissive is also most likely doomed to fail.

So please, tell me why you can make such an assertion that "humans were not meant to live in man=women fashion?" (minus all your spelling errors). What basis do you have to make such a claim?

Answer 10

Well as I understand feminism, it is for "equality under the law". It is about having the same basic human rights (with a few exceptions due to biology). It has nothing to do with who is dominant in a relationship. Thats up to the personalities/culture of the man and woman.

Yes, everything started out with men in charge for a reason. They were bigger and stronger. We have laws and civillization now though. You can no longer merely bash someones head in with a rock and take his woman back to your cave.

Answer 11

Why shouldn't a good looking masculine man like myself attract beautiful non feminist women?.