Is China following a FASCIST economic model?

Question

eelfins...you obviously know nothing about economics. Go take a 10th grade course in economics. Voting has nothing to do with economics.

BTW the liberal definition of economic fascism is free market, with people being allowed to own, buy, sell, and trade without government interference. In actually, that's called democracy, or at least our version of it.-

that is again not College level economics. Fascism is considered free market. It is more of a command economy....it is not Capitalist (anarchist) but it is Free Market. Democracy has nothing to do with it. The US is a Republic - not a Democracy, both have to do with representation and voting. They are NOT economic models.

eelfins, sorry if it seems I was upset. I'm not. It's just that I thought you were confusing voting right for economics. Hitler was democratically elected....Lenin was not. You know that. The economics have nothing to do with whether people have a right to vote.

Answer 1

Yup. "Communist China" hasn't really been communist since the 70's.

Answer 2

China is not communist nor is it socialistic.
It is also often referred to as totalitarian and a dictatorship.
Both are equally as wrong too.

Communism:
is a the opposite of capitalism so therefore it is impossible they are communistic. The first people who were allowed to use limited capitalism were the farmers back in the 50's because of the failure of collective farming. The whole country is one huge capitalistic machine now.

Socialistic:
means the state controls all production, manufacturing and business. That is impossible as well since individuals own businesses and those state run businesses are a mixture of state and private working side by side. Currently today, less then 20% is state owned. 30 years ago it was 100%. Example, their oil industry is a mix of private and state working together and their cost per gallon of gas is $2.25. There are no taxes added, all the revenue and profits are done before that with both private and state profiting. The USA could do that same, but we'd rather pay $1 more per gallon then allow any kind of socialism to creep into our economy. Our socialism is through war for oil while ignoring what the people really need.

Totalitarian:
means the state controls all aspects of life. That is simply not the case as individuals are free to seek new employment, open businesses, travel at will, immigrate, buy homes, become rich, buy any consumer product they want without permission, in short, do just about anything the people in the west take for granted.

Dictatorship:
They have an election system in place that is at the province level. Those elected officials, who are elected by the people, are then sent to Beijing to represent the people there and those people elect the president, much like many government systems in the world, like Britain.

One party rule:
True, but in recent years the government is encouraging people from outside the party to become involved in government and politics. They can also hold high office, something that was unheard of a few years ago. China understands that it needs new blood in its system in order to survive and do the will of the people otherwise China will stagnate.

What type of government does China have?
At this point, it is hard to say, because it is a mixture of democratic ideals, federalism, socialism, and authoritarian. From what I can see, and how China likes change slowly, that it is slowly morphing into a democratic federal republic, much like the USA has now. But at their own pace, not the instant change that the west demands of China. China is smart enough to know that instant change can have social and political repercussions and its best to take it slowly as to not wake the angry dragon of discontent and descent.

Source:
My experience, living here as an ex pat from the USA
My web site.
http://www.pbase.com/sailingjim

http://www.china.org.cn
and see how their system works. Use their search engine and put in the words democracy, then communism, then socialism. You'll probably be surprised at the results you get. Keep in mind, the people read the same things you will read there.

Peace

Jim

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Answer 3

China's government is communist. But its economy is market oriented. As can be seen from numbers, China is booming. But that comes at many social costs. There are already many social problems in modern day China.

I don't know what you mean by fascist economic model when you are refering to China. But people in China cannot vote for their own leaders and do not have much say in China's political affairs.

And of course, Adolf Hitler made his popularity by support from his own people. Anybody who denies this is blind.

China has an appauling human rights record and is known to support some brutal and tyranical regimes like the Burmese junta, in order to suite its own interests. Politically speaking, China's leadership maybe somewhat fascist.

Answer 4

Both are left wing and both are socialist. Since the Chinese are not part of an international communism trying to "convert" the rest of the world and have a basically nationalist official viewpoint, I'd have to say yes. The only difference between fascism and communism is fascism is for one nation and communism is for the world. Neither believe in the free market and neither believe in private corporations, at least in theory.

Answer 5

Communism is fascism in practice, because there is no voting, the government controls what everyone is allowed to do, and the individual has no value. That's fascism by any other name. BTW the liberal definition of economic fascism is free market capitalism, with people being allowed to own, buy, sell, and trade without government interference. In actually, that's called democracy, or at least our version of it.

Democracy, our version of it, is inherently capitalistic because government is not allowed to claim profits like Hitler did in Nazi Germany, or nationalize industries like communists typically do. Without free market, at least within national borders, you don't have democracy, you have the equivilant of fascism. It doesn't matter if it's economic or not.

Answer 6

Every time we do good things on Yahoo! it cost us something. Sometimes, I hate being good! I agree, pretty much with everything that Duriel says except:

Duriel:
I don't know what you mean by fascist economic model when you are referring to China. But people in China cannot vote for their own leaders and do not have much say in China's political affairs.

Max:
In many ways, China is an authoritarian republic. People do have freedoms, but not the same kind of freedoms as we have in the West. I would not describe China as a fascist model, I would describe her as a modern capitalistic one. Can and do the Chinese people vote for their leaders? Yes, they are allowed to vote and they do vote for their leaders with some exceptions. Every nation on the face of this planet is different and not all nations are the same.

Duriel:
China has an appalling human rights record and is known to support some brutal and tyrannical regimes like the Burmese junta, in order to suite its own interests. Politically speaking, China's leadership maybe somewhat fascist.

Max:
China has a good human rights record. By human rights, it is meant as to how one's nation treats its people. The rest is US government propaganda.

We in the West need to learn how to be honest or we won't succeed in diplomacy. Most any issue, my firm can settle with nation like North Korea, China, Iran, and Saddam's Iraq. When we go into a nation, we are not judgmental and we are open and free willed with all whom we come into contact with. The US government is not like this, so diplomacy on their part is crooked and corrupt. That is why Saddam allowed us to speak to him and that is why he chose to agree to our terms of the troop withdrawal in 1990. The Bush administration even lied about this!

CHINA is a free market, but restricted, economy.

Max
peacenegotiator

Ps: My family consist of Chinese, Americans, and people from the Middle East. Muslims. As Salaam Alai Kum
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Answer 7

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Answer 8

yes is some ways, but in many ways they are emulating the US economic with a more fascist capitalistic model.

Answer 9

It is a quasi Fascist economic model, because they have adopted certain American economic model due to the pressure exerted by us to open their economy to world market dictates.

Answer 10

That's not a bad question at all, and worth some consideration.