As a Giants fan I've had plenty of reason to ponder this issue over the last few years and I have to admit a high level of apathy about any new revelations of players who used any kind of performance enhancing drug in the past.
It appears that the problem was so wide spread that it's virtually impossible to know who was clean and who wasn't. And then there are all the issues about what was or wasn't a performance enhancing substance, and whether you can really hold it against a player when MLB didn't really seam to be concerned about the problem.
Don't get me wrong, I make no excuses and have no sympathy for anyone who has been caught since the started mandatory drug testing. But I think anything prior to 2004 (? date when MLB started testing) needs to be left alone - I don't see any advantage for anyone by outing any of those players who can be linked to performance enhancing drugs.
2007-11-08 18:37:40 · 14 answers · asked by Justin H 7 in Sports ➔ Baseball
i dont care. so many pro athletes have used different juices i dont care anymore. all sports have been equally effected and i just dont care. big deal.
your question is so well thought out i would really like to give you a better answer, but i am just so sick of the issue, i dont care anymore. shoot, bike riding is a farce. track and field is a hoot. and 10-15 years of baseball gets an asterisk. football has always been polluted with the stuff. and we dont even really know if the designer cocktails of roids/hgh are harmful or not....i dont care anymore. drink up fellas and have a big shot a coke and herroin on the way out! screw it alll!
i bet you 90% of current baseball players have used roids or hgh. and many with a doctors blessing. MAYBE the stuiff, in correct doses should just be a part of a players training and nutrition? hell, my dog gets cortisone shots.
2007-11-08 19:22:19 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
The problem is not that Williams admitted he used HGH, but that most of his contemporaries probably also used it and have not admitted it.Baseball did not care,as long as fans came to the games. WE have no idea which records are drug enhanced and which are really achieved honestly. I have a sad feeling that the truth would shatter all myths about the stars of baseball. It is unfair to center on certain players,when the whole game may have been very corrupt.
2007-11-10 10:14:52 · answer #2 · answered by Joel M 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
This issue goes much deeper than cut off dates. Before 2004 or after. The real issue has to do with intent. Players who knowingly used HGH or any other drugs to gain unfair advantage over their peers. You can' put a date on that. I don't care who's involved, if they cheated than they should have to pay for it.
You're right about one thing, this problem is much more wide spread than anyone thought. However if baseball is to do the right thing, it must do a complete investigation no matter how long it takes and no matter where the investigation takes them.
2007-11-09 04:52:39 · answer #3 · answered by The Mick 7 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I agree that most, if not all, sports have been over run with 'roids. Any day now I expect to read that half the players on my Cleveland Indians were using 'roids or HGH at some point in time. People might feel the same way about their teams or players. However, the only thing at this point that would TRULY shock me is if Grady Sizemore turned up on a 'roid or HGH list. He is pure old school and plays all out. His stats are good but not ridiculously so. That is why I like Sizemore so much - he does not have otherworldly numbers but he dives like Superman in the OF regardless of the score or standings. I remember Matt Williams when he played in Cleveland. He left because he was upset about his divorce and wanted to play for a team that was closer to his kids. I am not going to make a judgment call on the man. I think Bonds makes himself a target of derisive commentary by being so arrogant and nasty himself something that Matt Williams never did. I do not think it is just the 'roid thing that jacks up the fans about Bonds but about his mentality and his attitude. I was disappointed when the info was disclosed about Paul Byrd but Byrd has never been known to act like an idiot the way Bonds does so when people say why do fans slam Bonds and not Paul Byrd, I think that is a huge factor. Barroid paints a huge target on his 'roid enhanced body.
2007-11-09 02:05:28 · answer #4 · answered by alomew_rocks 5 · 1⤊ 2⤋
It really bothers me that some people are so complacent about all the drug use. I guess along with the players the fans have accepted no accountability for what sports are supposed to mean and be about. What great lessons we teach to people.
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2016-11-10 21:53:47 · answer #6 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
How can any of us be surprised when the use of drugs was common place in the 1990's before the MLB drug plan was implemented.
2007-11-08 22:54:30 · answer #7 · answered by Frizzer 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
it just proves my point about baseball and its fan,who been chastising bonds for years now.damn near 70-80% of players in his era was using perfomance enhancing drugs.i'm not even surprised anymore when a new name pops up as a user.yet...barry has never failed a drug test and was never susp. from the game because of it.but now one of his ex teamates?amazing!but do you hear the out cry that you would hear if bonds is found guilty?of course not.
innocent until proven guilty.
2007-11-08 19:54:03 · answer #8 · answered by mojo569 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
What revelation? He admitted he did it. Most of the other players that will be named will not come clean. He admitted a mistake.
2007-11-09 01:58:41 · answer #9 · answered by Crowdpleaser 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
he's a moron. i actually couldn't believe the numbers he was putting up. i really didn't think he was that good. another guy that i'm sure will be on the hgh list is luis gonzalez. look at his numbers his first 5 or 6 years......look at his homerun totals....then when he went to AZ he went on a sickening rampage. he never hit more than like 14hrs, then starts hitting 40 to 50 hrs. his average went up like 88pts. check that out!
baseball-reference.com
2007-11-08 20:38:11 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋