Ron Paul won 17 of the straw polls...while almost winning the straw poll in Ohio. So, tell me, why he can't win the GOP nomination?
2007-11-07 08:23:48 · 22 answers · asked by Fedup Veteran 6 in Politics & Government ➔ Elections
If he is indeed a "Fringe" candidate, without ANY Republican support, then WHY did he win ANY of the straw polls, let alone 17 on them???
Just stating it doesn't make it true, but I have PROOF to back up the fact that he DID win 17 of the straw polls.
2007-11-07 08:32:56 · update #1
Chuck, I agree with 99% of what you say, but I think a LOT of Americans are starting to see that it is about survival and individual rights, verses the ultra rich. No, I don't agree 100% with ANY candidate, but I know that I can see BS when I do, and all the others are spouting it!
2007-11-07 08:53:04 · update #2
Dr. Paul's ideas are not radical, they are what this country are based on, If you think his ideas are "radical" read the constitution, and you will find that they are not radical at all. The best thing is he wants to get rid of the one thing that has plagued this country since it inception in 1913, The Federal Reserve Act. Even Woodrow Wilson would regret that one, when he said this three years later.
"The growth of the nation ... and all our activities are in the hands of a few men ... We have come to be one of the worst ruled; one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world ... no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the free vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
And who said Ron Paul won't get the GOP nomination, besides fox news, CNN, and the rest...
Also his polls are not being spammed! One IP address per vote, stop listening to whatever hannity and colmes tells you and turn off your TV!
2007-11-07 08:46:33 · answer #1 · answered by Larry B 5 · 15⤊ 5⤋
He definitely can. Having raised over $7 million already (including over $4 million on Monday alone), he has almost certainly won the money primary (that is, because he didn't raise money early and blow it like his competitors did, he'll have money to spend when it actually matters). And he has the largest amount of real supporters of any candidate (and they organize independently).
Ron Paul has the best organized campaign, the best platform (even though the politicians have shifted, most of the American people still want the country to return to following the Constitution), and the money.
The only reasons why Ron Paul trails are name recognition and media bias. Very few people consider the media to be objective anymore and the money will allow the name recognition to increase.
When Ron Paul finishes in the top 3 in Iowa (1 or 2 people can actually win a precinct at the Iowa Caucus, as turnout is low, so Ron Paul supporters may be able to win that one just by showing up) and the top 2 in New Hampshire (when the New Hampshire independents realize that the warmongering Hillary is a lock for the nomination, they will skip the boring Democrat primary and vote for Ron Paul), he will become a serious top-tier candidate and the rest of the country will look at him more closely. If Ron Paul were to finish above John McCain in New Hampshire, McCain would probably drop out and if he won both Iowa and New Hampshire, Romney would probably drop out. Then, Giuliani could implode (if Ron Paul beats Rudy in NY, NJ, or PA, it would expose Rudy as weak in the very region where he is supposed to be strongest and destroy his chances) and drop out of the race. If that happens, the election comes down to Ron Paul VS Fred Thompson. Fred Thompson is a sectional candidate who only appeals to the military-industrial complex in the south, so the north and west will go to Ron Paul, giving him enough delegates to beat Fred Thompson for the nomination.
In order to win, he has to start strong and win a majority of delegates. If nobody ends up with a majority, the other candidates will team up and vote one of them to the nomination.
2007-11-07 09:08:01 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 11⤊ 5⤋
He can if he is clever enough about it. He needs to stand out. He will have to be enabled in part by his supporters and then his team will have to use the money raised by his supporters to get people's attention and then keep talking.
The most recent polls has him climbing from 2 to 5 percent support. I think this will increase a bit across all polls in the near future.
2007-11-07 09:58:24 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 3⤋
Yes he can.
Straw polls are more accurate than the so called national polls, in my opinion. The national polls are put together by the media, and the participators are chosen by the media, the same media who is ignoring Ron Paul.
If you look at the site posted above you'll see that they are only polling 303-678 people. And nowhere do they mention who those people are or how they were chosen, but we should blindly trust them because they are "national polls".
Now as for the straw polls, anyone can go to them, and anyone can show their support for the candidate they chose. No one picks and chooses who votes in teh straw polls, I would trust those first. But then again, in could just be a bunch of spambots going to the straw polls.
2007-11-07 08:59:38 · answer #4 · answered by benni 4 · 8⤊ 6⤋
I say to myself every day "He will win". Let's try giving him some positive thought and energy support.
2007-11-07 19:24:29 · answer #5 · answered by RonPaul2008.com 2 · 5⤊ 1⤋
Well, you probably won't like my answer, but here goes...
I don't think Ron Paul can win because he loses his credibility with his position on foreign policy.
I like a lot of his values and his voting record, but you cannot be the leader of the USA and have his views on foreign policy. He simply cannot gain the support from the base of the Republican party.
BTW - you do know the definition of straw, right?
2007-11-07 12:16:34 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 8⤋
Rhetorical question.. Of course he can.
According to the straw polls, he placed first on 20 straw polls.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_polls_for_the_Republican_Party_%28United_States%29_presidential_nomination%2C_2008#Total_wins
Ron Paul has an approximately 5% chance before he raised 4.3 mil in one day. Now, he has about 20% chance because of media coverage. That 4.3 million has bought about $10 million dollars or more worth of FREE media exposure. Excellent public relations strategy!! I'm impressed..!
2007-11-07 09:06:40 · answer #7 · answered by Think Richly™ 5 · 7⤊ 5⤋
Salesmanship !!! Or the lack thereof. Dr Paul strikes too many people about like 3 day old Cornflakes, No Personality, and no "Hoopla" !! I DO NOT ENDORSE HILLARY, IN ANY WAY, But, every one knows about her !!
Why??? Heaps of HOOPLA !!!!
'Tis not who is the better of the candidates, but who is best KNOWN'.
"Talk about me good, talk about me bad, but for my life and survival, PLEASE-PLEASE, NEVER QUIT TALKING ABOUT ME" !!!
If it were not for the constant 'talking,' Billary' would be as dead in the water, as is the TITANIC!!
2007-11-07 11:04:27 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 5⤋
He may be crazy, but he is not dishonest enough to get much Republican support, although I have to admit, with all this spamming of these fake polls, I am beginning to think that Ron Paul might be dishonest enough to get support from more Republicans.
He may be winning in the fake polls, but he only gets about 5 percent of the vote in the real polls. Even with Diebold voting machines, a Republican needs more than 5 percent of the vote to become president.
2007-11-07 08:36:39 · answer #9 · answered by buffytou 6 · 4⤊ 12⤋
Lack of support - pure and simple. It's the same reason for every candidate who doesn't win the nomination, not just Paul.
2007-11-07 08:36:49 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 10⤋