why is pete rose still banned from base ball and these drug users are not ?

Question

yes he bet on base ball but he did not tarnish the game like these overpaid junkies that seem to think they are supeman when in fact the have taken the greatest sport in the world and turned in in to lets see how stupid the public is and how much tey will pay to come see me
when i was kid i used to enjoy going to watch the cubs play at wrigley now it is a circus drunks and people there just to say i was at a cubs game at wrigley i have a family now and with ticket prices the way they are who can afford to take a family unless you make 100.000.00 a year

Answer 1

Pete Rose's gambling didn't tarnish the game? Are you serious?

Gambling has ALWAYS been illegal, certain performance-enhancing drugs have not.

It's as simple as that.
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Answer 2

You question wanders all over the place from Pete Rose to junkies to ticket prices to rowdy fans. But what I assumed to be the essence of your question before I read the rant - Pete Rose and drug users - have nothing to do with each other.

Pete Rose bet on baseball. He's admitted it. He broke the sport's #1 rule. He's paying the price. If he was some journeyman player who bet on baseball and got the same fate, would you care? Just because he's Pete Rose does not entitle him to a free pass.

The reference to "junkies" is pretty extreme. If you're referring to those who use performance-enhancing drugs then calling them junkies is incorrect. Those drugs are not addictive. Rules are now in place to punish players who use these things. There were no rules in the past. You can't punish someone for breaking a rule before it became a rule. But beyond that, this has nothing to do with Pete Rose. It's a different circumstance.

You can go ahead and blame the players for high ticket prices if it makes you feel better, but if the owners are willing to pay them outrageous salaries why shouldn't they take it? Yes the owners pass the cost onto the consumer. It's called capitalism. It's not always perfect and sometimes it stinks. But the only way things will change is if people stop attending games, buying merchandise and watching the games on television. Once the revenues dry up, the salaries will drop and tickets will become more reasonably priced. Frankly, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Answer 3

Gambling and baseball go way, way back to the old days when the common guy could actually afford to go.

Baseball has been tied to gangsters, mobsters and fixers for a lot longer than 'roids. And it's a game of traditions.

What Rose did affected the game all by his lonesome. And it was relatively easy to prove that he did--not to mention confession is a tough one to step back on.

These fools that are trying to prove something need to take a page from Ty Cobb--use ankle weights to run. Or what Roger Clemens did in college with a five-gallon bucket of rice. Use the natural method and be as good as your body will let you, not as good as your ego thinks you should be.

Gambling is bad, admittedly. But if you throw a game, like the Black Sox or Rose, you are doubly bad for it.

At least the 'roids users are trying to improve their teams, indirectly through themselves.

That's what I would say. It goes beyond personal with gambling.

Answer 4

Cry Me A Rose-colored River.

Do litterbugs and murderers merit the same degree of punishment? Crime is crime, after all.

Please, don't be so wantonly, willfully ignorant. What Rose did, and no mistake he DID do it, was break one of MLB's most vital rules. He did it, he did it deliberately, he did it repeatedly, and he did it with full knowledge of the defined punishment -- which he is now serving, having consented freely to sign his ineligibility agreement with Commissioner Giamatti.

Steroids were not against MLB's rules and regs until 2004. Whatever happened before then, however much it may sour one's stomach and boil one's blood, is not akin to what Rose did (ignoring, for amusement's sake, all the obvious differences in the exact actions and the impacts thereof). One cannot break the rules if there are no relevant rules to break.

Crowd control and alcohol abuse at the park are separate topics. But you are, quite freely, welcome not to attend another game ever. That'll show 'em, you betcha.

Answer 5

Because Baseball is stupid and hipocritical. Shoeless Joe hit .400 in the World Series he "supposedly" helped throw. The Hall of Fame is simply that: a place where someone "famous" goes to be rememebered. It should be for good or for bad. In Pete Rose's case he would make it in in BOTH circumstances. Canseco would be in this category as well. There are many pitchers who cheated to make it in, and soon there will be hitters too. Let these guys in, but tell the ENTIRE story about them so that our grandkids, grandkids don't forget the lessons and the history of the greatest game ever.

Answer 6

Major League Baseball is occasionally inconsistent and has a strange policy when they say they want to preserve the integrity of the game. It seems they care more about gambling than the health of their players.

What they should do with Pete Rose is ban him for life. When he passes away the lifetime ban should be lifted. By that time neither he nor any of his relatives will be able to profit from being inducted into Cooperstown. They should do the same thing for "Shoeless" Joe Jackson.

Answer 7

Pete Rose gambled. Gambling was on the books as being against the rules.

Those who used performance enhancers did so before they were banned.

Answer 8

It's ridiculous. The commissioner of baseball has a hard on for Rose for some reason. One of the greatest players of his time. I suspect after he is dead they will put him in the Hall of Fame. But will never give him the satisfaction of seeing it happen.

People like Barry Bonds should be erased from the record books. None of the records being broke today with the use of steroids and performance enhancing drugs are legitimate.

This is the reason I won't buy a ticket to baseball or watch it on tv any longer. I will not support in anyway what they represent today.

Answer 9

Yes. I agree. Great question! This really is an issue that needs to be addressed, and it's a perfect example of how values have slid over the years.

I guess I have also softened. I think that he should be reinstated to baseball....he's been punished long enough.

Answer 10

he has to come forward and admit not only to all the fans of baseball but to the commisioner Bud Selig