What the f*c*? You can be Christian and gay at the same time.?

Question

I hate to brake it to all of you, but news flash. You can be a Christan and gay at the same time. I know tons of people that are. Oh, let me guess, you are going to start quoting those bible verses that say that homosexuality is an abomination. Well, let me let you in on a little secret. Back when the Bible was first written, the Bible sayed nothing about homosexuality. It referred to men who prayed on children. Man is the one who added homosexuality to the bible. Second, if you can't be gay and a Chistian, then you can't be an alcoholic and a christian, a theif and a christian, you can't be anything that the bible goes agianst and a christian. All you folks being judgmetal are obviously not Christians, so you can't tell me who to do my religion. Get a life and stay out of mine. I know who my God is and if He has a problem with me being gay, believe you-me, He will do something about it, for His word says "Come to me as you are and I will change you."

Answer 1

Amen brother! Funny how people like to tell you what GOD thinks of you, and how they know that you're going to hell. GOD gave me a gift, so why would I want to change or return it??? D'n'D

Answer 2

I heard Sy Rogers recently. He described how people were fussing at him and he said, "What I needed was not a change of the gender of my sex partner, that missed the issue completely." He then described the obvious truth, "It is redeemed people that go to heaven, everyone else, whatever their problems, don't." You are indeed right, theives and liars are just as incompatible with Christianity. You are wrong, however, the homosexuality thing is in there--as Sy said, the former homosexual couple that first introduced him to a homosexual-oriented church discovered that when they read the Bible for themselves, it became obvious that they either had to change or stop calling themselve "gay Christians." From watching them change, he made steps to discover what they did. He abandoned his preparations for a sex change (also with the help of the Johns Hopkins program being dropped) and found, in an exasperated prayer, God answered him. He discovered the truth of Isaiah 1:18, a passage he was very fond of: "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."

I didn't come to this question to judge you, I thought you might be one of the Christian critics and wanted to ask you tone it down. Seeing that was not the case, from what you wrote, I largely agree with you. Don't shortchange what the Bible says, however, the problems come not from what is in there, but what a lot of us like to say about what is in there--on all sides of the fence.

Answer 3

"Come to me as you are and I will CHANGE you."
ya see that little CHANGE there...
God is all knowing so dont you think he had an idea about what was going to happen in the future -
namely the rise of homosexuality?
there was homosexuality even in BC times it was just not as prominent as we see it today
Sexual immorality covers the whole "gay" thing
but you were right - you can be gay and a christian at the same time -
just like alcoholics are christians and thiefs too
but the point is too become a better person
alcoholics stop drinking - thiefs stop stealing
homosexualists change their lifestyle
just because it is "societally acceptable" does not mean its Biblically acceptable
you were also right in that you said we shouldnt judge
A thief is no better than a murderer just like a person who lusts is no better than a homosexual
a sin is a sin - no one is better or worse than another because they are all against God
i didnt mean to preach to you but the whole point of being christian is living as Jesus lived -
following the example he gave and following the instructions he gave us through the Bible
if u truly believe God has no problem with homosexuality then why does your heart beat so fast when someone tells u its wrong?
its because deep down you know it is...

Answer 4

Hate to break it to you but,
yes the Bible does speak against homosexuality.
And as far as the other, there IS a doctrine of repentence.
Repentence is required.
Some things God will do in a person's life, and some things are OUR responsibility. We cannot delegate back to God what is ours to do.
Check out 1 Corinthians 6:11. This uses the word "were".
To find the whole context, to prove what I say, read the entire chapter.

Answer 5

There are plenty of gay churches with openly gay priests, some of which are even married lesbian priests. Personally I would feel a hell of a lot more comfortable with a priests who was an out lesbian or gay man and who had a spouse than some repressed closet case spouting fire and brimstone! The churches need some serious queering up. Come to think of it so do the temples, mosques and synagogues. Think how much that would improve the world.

Answer 6

Actually, it doesn't say anything about children, either.

You'd think if homosexuality was a big issue with Him, Jesus would have mentioned it at least once, wouldn't you?

As far as Leviticus is concerned, there's nothing like a large sausage and pepperoni pizza in front of the TV during Sunday football while you're decked out in your cotton-poly team jersey, is there? Pass the fried won-tons.

Answer 7

Dear Jed and Who Else......

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your opinions and knowledge, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging

Answer 8

I'm an atheist and it does appear strange that anyone Gay or Lesbian would be a Christian. But, I get some razzing because I'm a Gay Republican too. It just goes to show, there are no cut and dried stereotypes you can count on.

Answer 9

Well i want to tell you this, i`m not gay, we all were born in a world of sin, everyone at one time or another has made mistakes. and some of us makes them more often then others, what i`m trying to say is nobody in this life time is perfect. so for anyone to pass Judgment on someone else and they are not perfect is a sin. so i just live and let live. food for thought.

Answer 10

The info that I put down here is not to condemn anyone to hell and I think that Homosexuals get too offended when someone brings up scripture. I have friends who proclaim to be gay and I tell them the same thing when we begin to talk about God and their lifestyle. I myself do no dislike the homosexual but its the sin that they are dwelling in that I dislike. I will continue to dislike it because it is something that God dislikes. We all have control over what we feel and what we choose to do because God has given us free will. But He also has a law that we must abide by. Just as the US has laws that we must abide by, and if we choose to not follow the law there are consequences. God is a just God and is word is something that we all must obey. So here is just a few scriptures to help you decide if the lifestyle you are living is exceptable to God and if you really can be a Christian and be a homosexual. I am sure you can believe in Christianity but also believe that Judgement is on who disobey what His word says.

In Leviticus 18:22 and 24 homosexuality is described as an "abomination" and "defiling." It is reprehensible and unclean.
In Leviticus 20:13 it is again described as an "abomination" but here as one worthy of the death penalty!
Deuteronomy 23:17 forbade the presence of a "sodomite" in the land of Israel.
An incident similar to that of Sodom and Gomorrah is seen again in Judges 19. Again the sin of homosexuality is described as "wickedness."
In 1 Kings 14, 15, and 22 the removal of male prostitutes from the land of Israel is viewed as a sign of much-needed spiritual reformation.
The prohibition in Deuteronomy 22:5 of women wearing men's clothing appears to be a specific condemnation of transvestism.
In Romans 1:18-32 the apostle Paul condemns the practice in the severest terms. Homosexuality is "unclean," "impure," "dishonoring to the body," "vile," "degrading / disgraceful," "contrary to nature," "unseemly/ obscene," "improper activity of a depraved mind," "unrighteous," "wicked," etc. Of particular importance to the apostle in this passage is the fact that homosexuality is "unnatural"--contrary to nature. In other words, nature itself teaches that the practice is wrong; we all know it intuitively. Homosexuality is, then, a particularly rebellious sin.
In 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 the apostle Paul speaks of homosexuals as "effeminate" and "abusers of themselves with mankind" who "shall not inherit the kingdom of God." The terms he uses here seem to be specific references to both active and the passive participants in a homosexual relationship. Such people are "unrighteous," he says, and if they remain in that practice they will be condemned.
From all this we can draw at least the following three conclusions:
1) Homosexuality is contrary to Scripture. There is no way to speak of any kind of acceptable or "Christian" homosexuality. There is never any allowance for it. It is never anything but sinful.
2) Homosexuality is contrary to nature. It is a particularly rebellious sin, a violation even of one's own conscience.
3) Homosexuality is worthy of severe judgment. The Mosaic law prescribed the death penalty for this sin. The apostle Paul specified that such people have excluded themselves from the salvation that is in Christ Jesus and are headed toward condemnation.

The most recent explanation is that people are just "born that way." Let's think about that. Let's say a man is born a kleptomaniac. Should society give him the freedom to steal? What if a man has a natural tendency toward adultery? Should it be approved? You see, the question is not that of psychological predisposition. The question is one of morality -- and one of obedience. To practice homosexuality is a choice of the will. Whatever affinity anyone may or may not have for it, to practice it he must choose to do so. Scripture describes it as always wrong, and so to choose to practice it is always sin.

So the real menace of society is not those who oppose immorality but those who promote it. Clearly, things have gone too far. We must not take the law into our own hands, but we can and will refuse to allow immorality to become acceptable. This is not "gay bashing." This is commitment to a higher authority. This is but one responsibility of holiness.