Steve Moore will never go away.
He should have taken the settlement because based on the first hearings, there is a very real possibility that Steve Moore will get nothing.
The facts
- at the first set of hearings, the Colorado Avalanche acknowledged that PRIOR to the incident, they had informed Steve Moore he would not be resigned
- at the first set of hearings, several (almost half) OTHER NHL GMs testified that Steven Moore was a borderline NHL player AT BEST and would not have received a free agent offer from their respective teams
- the neurological specialists assigned to the case can't agree on the severity of the injury, some thinking it's not so severe, others thinking it is severe.
In a nutshell, Steve Moore believes he has an NHL career and he missed out on it. Those who control the purse strings in the NHL think otherwise.
I'm sure that any award that Moore receives will be totally because the judge gets tired of him as well.
If Steve Moore was as good as he thought he was, his teammates would NOT have let Bertuzzi chase him around the ice for 20 seconds, they would have stepped in. The fact that nobody stepped in until AFTER the hit, tells a whole story.
I've been a professional hockey player, I have spent the last 40+ years talking to professional hockey players...I know how they think...and while nobody feels that Moore deserved to have the severity of injuries he recieved, just about everybody on that ice surface that night felt he should have to pay for his hit on Naslund....that's hockey protocol.
If I were Steve Moore, I'd suck up the fact that I laid a dirty hit on Markus Naslund, and that I should accept retribution was coming....and that I should accept Bertuzzi's apology.
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Bertuzzi meant to hurt Moore, but he did not intend to break his neck, cause a concussion, etc. He also expected Moore to turn around and fight, roll over and fight back, etc. Moore wasn't the first person that Bertuzzi has ever tackled, but he's the first to sustain such injuries (again, depending on which doctor's reports are to e believed).
I don't feel any player should set out to injure any other player, but when you hit a guy...you want him to know you hit him, and you want it to hurt. If I hit you in a game....I want you to go crying back to the bench in pain.....but I don't want to break your bones. Just a bruise here and there.
2007-11-07 02:26:00
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answered by Like I'm Telling You Who I A 7
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While I would not cassify Moore as a crybaby or a coward, I think he has to recognize his role in the entire affair.
1) He claims Vancouver had a bounty on him for a cheap shot on Naslund. If this is what he believes, why would he take another hack at Naslund as he did right before being tackled by Bertuzzi?
2) He knew Bertuzzi was on his tail. If he turns around and faces Bertuzzi, none of this happens. It's not like Bertuzzi came out of nowhere to tackle him.
3) What portion of his injuries were caused by the ensuing pile-on?
4) Contrary to one previous poster, Moore is not paying his own medical expenses. Insurance takes care of that, I believe.
As far as Moore's career is concerned, LITY suggests 1/2 of the teams would never offer Moore a contract based on his talent. That still leaves the other half, so he may still be a fourth line player somewhere. Desparation on the part of some teams might have him on someone's roster. I don't see this as relative to the arguement, though. The fact is, the option of having him on a roster is deleted, whether someone would have chosen that option is debatable.
I think if you take into consideration, his likeliness of being in the NHL, the effect on his earning potential outside of the NHL (which probably hasn't changed), his actions leading up to the hit, and the other factors, Bertuzzi's offer may be more fair than realized.
2007-11-07 05:53:59
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answered by cme 6
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He'll never go away. And I wouldn't really call him a "coward," just very annoying. He's doing all this....talk...to the media because he wants the attention and he wants to be portrayed as the victim. Last I checked, he's the one who also blind-sided Naslund and he's the one who started that whole thing. What he should really do is keep this a private matter between himself and Bertuzzi. Whenever the media comes up to him or his lawyer, don't give them the story. Maybe then people will start having more respect for him because he really comes off as a whiner, no matter what he says including ordering a pizza.
Also, $350Gs is a lot of money for someone living with his parents now. All he has to do is accept the fact that his dreams of playing pro hockey is over, and move on. If you had $350Gs just handed to you (except for LITY, I'm sure he's got more than that), you'd be drooling. Pay off some bills, go back to school to start on a new career, invest a good chunk of that in mutual funds as an income, you have a new life right there. No need to be greedy to go for millions like everybody else is saying.
2007-11-07 05:16:53
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answered by Anonymous
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Yeah, what a puss!! Breaks his neck just because his head was used as a pile driver? Of course he quits and goes home to his mommy wearing a 'halo' for sympathy. Talk about overkill. Benadryl and an Ace bandage is ALL you need for broken neck. 4 out of 5 board certified non-MD's agree.
I can't believe he even had the audacity to go to the hospital, muchless complain about a simple, unfortunate, unavoidable mishap. Right?? What a punk.
You know who I really feel sorry for? Todd Bertuzzi. So much unwanted and undeserved scrutiny. He's the real victim here. Maybe he should kick Dominic Moore's *** just to feel a little better about the hardship he was put through. Me and you can hold Dominic down while Bertuzzi works. What do you say?
Actually, maybe we should start with Roger Moore first. He'll be easier to handle and no one deserves an *** kicking more than that dude. He still owes me eight bucks and two hours for enduring "Octopussy".
EDIT: Come on, LITY. I don't care if the guy was an ankle bender from a Tuesday night beer league. Settlements aside, do you think he deserved that harsh a fate? Doesn't it also say something about the players if a teammate's talent level supposedly determines how much support he gets on the ice?
Now, if I'm to read between the lines and infer that the guy was a complete jerk and was hated by everyone in the room, fine. I still think a message of "you're not wanted here" need not have gone to the extent of what Bertuzzi did.
EDIT 2: OK, how about the settlement side, LITY? I understand why the league would have to close ranks on the issue, but do you think it's outrageous for Moore to claim he lost more than $350K in potential wages as a pro athlete? You have the scouting report on the guy. Wouldn't he have some income potential, particularly in the post-lockout NHL? Afterall, just the league minimum for a couple of seasons would put him well past the offered sum. If not, couldn't he expect to play in Europe for a few years?
2007-11-07 02:20:31
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answered by zapcity29 7
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Ah, Steve Moore. The guy feels he is being cheated, yet he is the one who went against the so-called "code". He was the instigator of the whole situation, going after Markus Naslund. If it wasn't for overexpansion, Moore wouldn't have been in the NHL to begin with. Yes, Todd Bertuzzi's actions were deplorable. Yes, Bertuzzi is paying a price for what he did by living as a pariah. However, instead of pitying Steve Moore, one should look at the facts before shedding tears for someone who essentially was a little twerp.
2007-11-07 08:16:41
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answered by Snoop 5
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Coward? He went out there and got into 2 fights that game just so the situation could be over with.
Moore can no longer play in the NHL and although he wouldn't have made millions he would have made a lot more than $350,000 that offer was a joke and an insult he will go away when he get some amount of money that is close to what he deserves for having his career ended.
2007-11-07 01:01:55
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answered by MrStamper 3
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Hey buddy please wake up .Steve Moore spent many years along with his parents sacrificing and focusing on a dream that came true, which was to play in the NHL. Suddenly it's done forever, just like that!. COM'ON man have some common sense,compassion, sensitivity and think before you speak .If you were Steve Moore you would want fairness and compensation for this, wouldn't you?
2007-11-08 13:38:10
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answered by Anonymous
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When will he go away? As far as the lawsuit is concerned, when he is given what he deserves. 350,000 was a joke settlement offer that should have never been made. While he would never have been a top player, making the big bucks, saying at least 10 times what Bertuzzi's lawyer's offered is too much is a crock. He deserves to be compensated for lost wages and medical bills.
EDIT: I find it funny how so many of you can say that he went against the unwritten code of NHL goonery for his cheap shot on Naslund. Yes, his shot on Naslund was cheap. But he did have the supposedly "required" retaliatory fight in that game. Then Bertuzzi gooned him anyway. If anything, Moore overpaid for his attack on Naslund.
2007-11-07 01:11:20
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answered by SMH Corp 7
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Funny, I haven't heard him whine lately.
If anyone's a coward, it's Bertuzzi. He didn't have the guts to approach Moore face to face, so he sucker punches him from the back. That's cowardly. Bertuzzi should just go away.
And so should you.
2007-11-07 07:04:48
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answered by hockey_gal9 *Biggest Stars fan!* 7
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Bertuzzi tackles him from behind, destroys his chances of ever playing again, and then insults with an offer 1% of what he's worth and Moore is the bad guy here? They should kick Bertuzzi out of the League for good!
I think your question, unless it was meant to incite answers, may well win the award for the dumbest EVER!
2007-11-07 01:04:16
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answered by confused 2
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