History Quiz time?

Question

After World War 2, Japanese soldiers were prosecuted for war crimes for utilizing Water-boarding as a form of torture.
What country prosecuted them for using a method that is typically utilized by tyranical government to silence pro-democracy protesters?

sure CFB, I would be glad to as soon as I give folks a chance to answer.

fivekidsdown, you do know the difference between a terrorist and a suspect right??

ah so lttlehrse55, wants to follow in the footsteps of tyranny. anyone else?

Nightwind, not one statment that I made asked anyone to care about terrorists. But I would ask for people to wise up and care about America, and consider the downward spiral that this begins, when you it is waterboarding is no longer considered torture, and usable on suspects.

*correction (its getting late)
Nightwind, not one statment that I made asked anyone to care about terrorists. But I would ask for people to wise up and care about America, and consider the downward spiral that this begins, when waterboarding is no longer considered torture, and usable on suspects.

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/jtl/vol_45_2_files/Wallach.pdf

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15886834

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2006/10/26/usdom14465.htm

yeah fivekidsdown, none at all that were held for years without being charged...mmmmhmmmm whatever dude.

CFB read the entire links.
you are referring to certain circumstance in one of the links

Answer 1

Yeah, America is "one of those" countries that bullies "seemingly bad countries" and later goes back and says its okay to do what the bad country has done, so long as we give everyone "freedom and justice"

By the way, there was a certain US Senator that wanted to try and see if "water-boarding is torture". He declared it was torture, and even though there were people around him, he deemed it not safe.

What happened to him?

The Bush administration fired him.

WOO GO BUSH!

Answer 2

Well gee....must have been the US, But then again, war was pretty much a conventional thing back then. All we had to do was find the carrier group, or the air flights. A much easier task to find a group of planes or ships back in WW2, all you had to do was look or send out a scout. If you check history there seems enough information to suggest the planes that bombed Pear Harbor were sensed by our equipment but no alarm was sounded because of an officer making a decision. Its a far cry different to stop the wrong person with the wrong device coming into America..
Today we are dealing with a different enemy. They don't care if they die, they have no ethics against killing the innocent, they have no values, or morals as to how they conduct Jihad. All it would take is a bomb the size of a suit case.
Not to mention the use of our own technology say planes, cars non-conventional means. I think the ports are still largely unprotected considering how many containers go through there unchecked every day, there's always a place along the north or south borders that aren't covered and can have things smuggled in, There's many holes in our defenses, and it isn't like America has the old "civil defense" system up and working like they use to back in my time.
You can't make me care about some radical terrorists rights as a human being when all he cares about it killing people.....innocents included. We aren't talking bout the average muslim, or someone they just nabbed off the street. Waterboarding is also conducted under supervision, and to my knowledge does not do permanent damage. Our own forces in leadership positions also have the option to undergo this treatment so they know what its like. The system works and your talking about the worse people in the world that they would do it to. Times change, you have to change your tactic if you have any hope in winning such a war.
Lets not forget the terrorist plots that have been stopped in Germany and other places lately. All from information from wire tapping and what ever was available. Are we to assume the position that collateral damage to America is ok ? and people will die all because we want some fuzzy heart-felt feeling for a terrorist ? Have you lost your mind ?

Answer 3

We prosecuted Germans for 'war crimes' too. We were careful to define 'war crimes' as things -they- had done but not -us-. For instance, targeting civilian populations for bombing was not considered a war crime since we did that ourselves. But the Germans destroyed dikes in the Netherlands to flood farmland and we prosecuted them for that because we hadn't done that in WWII (though we did bomb dams later in Korea for the same effect).

It just goes to show you that history is written by the victors. 8^<

In one of the endless series of GOP candidates 'debates', in South Carolina, Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney tried to outdo each other on how much torture they would allow; both thought we should do -more-, not less. This is red meat to a South Carolina audience. When it was John McCain's turn to speak he couldn't advocate torture, having been a victim himself. He said 'You know where waterboarding comes from, don't you? It was invented in the Spanish Inquisition. Haven't we matured since then?' (I'm paraphrasing, but it was something like that).

This shows you where the GOP is today, that it takes unique political courage to criticize the Spanish Inquisition!

Answer 4

Difference being that soldiers the Japanese tortured were protected under the Geneva Convention.

Civilian-killing terrorists have no such luck, nor should they.

Answer 5

Here's a quiz.

What nation has to watch videos of its citizens being beheaded but must still listen to drivel about being warm and fuzzy with the captured terrorists who do such things?

Grow up, Josephine.

P.S. Thirty percent of our P.O.W.s DIED in Japanese prison camps.

Answer 6

Would you be so kind as to site your sources for these specific prosecutions.
The Japs did a lot worse just for fun so I for one would like to see the proof we prosecuted for water boarding.

Answer 7

Uh oh, I think I know the answer...