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2007-11-06 16:44:58 · 25 answers · asked by small 7 in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

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If we are to postulate that God is the first cause to all existence, then the term “free will” is a misnomer, at best. If an effect has a cause, that effect is to some extent determined by its cause. Hence, there is nothing “free” about our will, because if God is the cause of all existence, according to theism, then he is also the cause of our free will. Our volition’s parameters are defined by God, hypothecating that God does exist. Our free will’s susceptibility to fail or succeed is predetermined by the God.

The theistic conception of the universe, with God as the prime mover and prime causal agent is one that is purely deterministic. One cannot escape this fact. All the mediations by the Christian saints on the subject, and all the treatise by Christian philosophers on the subject, have yet to demonstrate anything else than determinism with respect to our choices, if God is the author of the universe.

Aquinas’ so called proofs for God’s existence, and all the apologists that have taken up his mantle, have demonstrated that the very concept of free will, does not absolve God of his ultimate responsibility for our sinful nature. Hence, for God to condemn us to hell is the absolute epitome of evil and injustice. Good thing for us, this notion of eternal perdition is as untrue as Zeus sitting on mount Olympus.

2007-11-07 04:39:20 · answer #1 · answered by Lawrence Louis 7 · 0 2

Even if these things are deemed illegal you still have "free will" to violate the law. Use of illegal drugs is against the law but some people still use them. People violate government laws all of the time. That is why there are so many people in jail. GOD also tells us to obey the laws of the land as long as they do not contradict his law. Christians only seek to have the laws of the land follow GOD's law. There will come a day when most if not all of the governmental laws violate GOD's law. That is the time when Christians will be persecuted for following GOD's word. Those that can resist the temptations of this world will be rewarded with ever-lasting life. I hope you understand that "free will" does not make it right to do what you want. It allows you ability to make a decision that you must answer for some day. People corrupt GOD's word by taking it out of context to suite them. They have done the same thing with the morals and values that this country was founded on. If our forefathers had known that when they wrote "freedom of religion" in the Constitution, that people would use this to worship fictional gods or religion's that do not honor Jesus as our savior, then they would have been more specific. Any red-blooded American knows that The United States of America is a county founded on GOD's word and true Christian values. We only want laws to reflect what GOD, our forefathers, and every born again Christian had in mind when forming this civilized nation of America.

2016-05-28 05:40:53 · answer #2 · answered by ute 3 · 0 0

I am an agnostic [believe that God exists but see no reason to worship him]

I think 'God is a sadist' to say the least when he created us with a life which has "happiness", "pain" & "sorrow".

If he had explained me about this and given me a chance to decide if I would like to be "born" I would have said no. But he never asked !!

Just take this example. If God told someone that He can live a kings life for 30 years and then he will be captured by enemies and tortured for 10 days before being killed, how many would have chosen this life? 1% or 2% at the max? So the bottom line is people are not ready to "suffer a small amount of pain" even if the life-package with with "huge amount of happiness" because they cannot cancel out each other.

2007-11-06 22:22:21 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

In a word, yes.

It's our job to determine whether or not we should use our free will for one purpose or another. That's what people don't stress enough...it's not the act that makes a person's actions bad or good, it's whether or not they realize they're doing it and for what reason. It's all about self-control and learning to discern what you should or shouldn't do - or think.

Granted, some people are more capable of discerning things a bit easier than others but, that usually comes from experience. And a great many philosophers stress the idea that wisdom comes mostly from experience.

A bit of the Nature vs. Nurture argument but, if it's in a person's capacity to be wise (as in intelligence OR wit/cleverness) than a person is usually able to learn wisdom over time.

2007-11-06 17:46:47 · answer #4 · answered by Calypso Draggon 3 · 2 0

According to James (Jesus' half-brother), if anyone lacks wisdom, he should ask God who WILL give it.
HOWEVER: It comes with a few things.
1) Knowledge is a precursor. An empty headed man will gain wisdom when a donkey teaches the lesson. - Job
2) It comes with mental anguish (because what Wisdom shows you is how lost people are without it -- even the so-called "experts"). Solomon discussed that aspect of wisdom quite frequently.
3) Based on the Scripture, Wisdom is one of the 7 spirits of God (Elohim). In order to manifest properties of the Spirit of God, you need to start with the basic SPIRIT.

If you're WISE, you'll obey the Acts 2:38 message - meticulously.

Good day.

2007-11-06 17:08:10 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Hi Small,
Let me base my reflection given your reality and the question posed.
Whether free will practically exists is up to question. My personal thought on this matter is that one's resources were a limiting condition at birth, thus limiting free will. Each person appears to have a wide ranging amount of resources alloted so that no general conclusion may be made from comparing one highly individual person to another concerning the general consequences of resources and the exercise of free will to yield certain results.
For some, the multiplicity of options seems to stifle the proper exercise of free will, for others, it is the dearth of options due to circumstances beyond their control. For example, does a quadriplegic know the meaning of freedom and thus free will in the sense we do as relatively mobile people? If in his heart he desires to get up and make himself some lemonade, he can not. He must have help from another to carry out his will, but self-sufficiency being compromised, there is no regeneration of energy from autonomy and independence. There appears to be many in the world with mental and health issues beyond their control.
I loathe to rely my thoughts solely on scientific, medical, or context outside of philosophy; however, I still feel the strong need to base thoughts comprehensively on reality.

Thus, I've questioned the existence of freewill. One can argue freewill was there from birth and the person simply "messed up" by making wrong choices. However, the lack of awareness of the wisdom-supported freewill necessitates free will wasn't available at the time for use, which means in a way, it did not exist---at least for the person. That seems to be how life proceeds. We discover a sense of increased free will when we are older, wiser, naturally have more resources, after much trial and error. The more quickly one gets to this point, the higher the chance of "success", as defined by the person.


I don't think it right that the Supreme Being limits our ultimate capacities and personal evolution. How much wiser now would we be had we gotten to a good understanding of the world and the demands of life when we were 5 years old? The biologic (as well as social, cultural, and personal attributes)factors that play in coming to a "realization" have late bloomers cherishing the realizations, but regretful of time lost and keener the perceptions of time left.

If this life's condition were a general plan by God to have us ultimately "own" our realizations, then He is rightly effective. However, if most of people fail to realize and actualize the wisdom of life, then what an extreme waste! The demand was too high and the loss too great in magnitude. Thus, it's the heart that yelps, "Something ain't right!" because it's really after all, one of the difficult quandaries of life.

2007-11-06 17:34:07 · answer #6 · answered by Pansy 4 · 2 0

Does it truly matter? People who are wise are just as able to chose to ignore the intuitions as are most everyone. It would appear that most of the major "sins" are things that everyone knows not to do, yet they are done all the time. I think few people steal because they think it is the right thing to do, they do it spite of wrongness. Additionally making mistakes serves to give one a better understanding about why certain courses of action are better than another. If it were inborn knowledge completely it would mean less because no one would have a true appreciation for the acquisition of that knowledge. Furthermore to ask "if it is right" by God, is counterintuitive to the common thiestic conception of God as being perfect and all-knowing. Usually the question turns to wheter God exists or not, not is God good or all knowing.

2007-11-06 16:52:25 · answer #7 · answered by spartanmike 4 · 2 0

God has surely granted us freewill. The latter is the key to activate the channel of intuition which links you to Him. It becomes your duty now to unlock the different channels of energy within you so that wisdom can find a way to descend upon you. And when you would have acquired this wisdom, you would start to get all the answers that you have been looking for....Help yourself, God will help you!

2007-11-06 21:47:18 · answer #8 · answered by World Vision 4 · 1 0

Oh, but he does indeed give us the wisdom we need. God will bless us with the gift of wisdom through the Holy Spirit if we will ask him for it through prayer. And, we can also ask and receive guidance from God to understand what his will is for us in any situation. Once we have understanding of his will and the gift of his wisdom we can easily manage our freewill to make the correct decisions.

2007-11-06 17:00:52 · answer #9 · answered by j c 4 · 2 0

Actually, mankind upped the ante. In the Mystery School or "Garden of Eden," the consequences of misuse of ability to make choice were well-explained and taught, beforehand. The "don't mess with relative good and evil" is a brief acknowledgement of a thorough education.

The choices of billions of lifestreams toward greed, lust, pride, envy, etc. permitted the fallen angels a lawful access to the lowered vibrations of those billions of souls.

From there, it was a conscious choice to be "as gods," rather than honoring the Law of the One and making choices within divine Love.

God respects man's ability to exercise choice. The Mercy of God has included sending a Messiah and other Prophets to bring extra enlightenment to fallen mankind. Again, many souls tend to idolatrize, ignore, and otherwise negate such Mercy.

You might try "Climb the Highest Mountain," Mark Prophet, "Men in White Apparel," Ann Ree Colton, "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil," O. M. Aivanhov, "The Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce?", Free and Wilcock, "Life before Life," Tucker, M.D., "University of Destruction," David Wheaton, "Entering the Circle" and "The Master of Lucid Dreams," Kharitidi, M.D., "Psychoenergetic Science," Tiller, Ph.D., http://www.tiller.org

Http://www.coasttocoastam.com radio has occasional guests talking on this topic, e.g. this Thursday, http://www.seandavidmorton.com

cordially,

j.

2007-11-06 20:51:09 · answer #10 · answered by j153e 7 · 1 1

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