Should we abandon the Geneva conventions as well as moral principles regarding treatment of prisoners?

Question

Several folks answered my last question stating that the enemy is beheading people and killing by suicide bombers so we should not be bound by restrictions in how we treat prisoners or detainees or combatants.

What do you think?

Answer 1

Does that also mean that an American prisoner who brutally murders another can be tortured, deprived in an American penitentiary?

Does that mean that American personnel who humiliate, murder or torture an enemy combatant or detainee can also be tortured?

The problem lies in the fact that a line does need to be drawn. Because somebody else stole a car does that justify you doing it?

We cannot justify actions based upon the actions of another, that leads to chaos and anarchy. The Geneva conventions were drafted to set a standard and to create a doctrine forcing those who do commit heinous acts to be held accountable.

Answer 2

A prisoner of conflict is one that wears a uniform telling which u . s . a . he fights for. If the guy would not positioned on a uniform then the Geneva convention says that that guy or woman may be shot on the spot as a undercover agent. The terrorist do no longer positioned on a uniform so they are able to be shot. The U.S. has no longer accomplished this yet perchance it's time to achieve this fairly of giving those terrorist the rights of the Geneva convention and attempting to lead them to electorate of the U.S. by utilising granting them the rights of a united statescitizen! Therefor there are no prisioners of conflict via fact they have not got a uniform showing which u . s . a . they conflict for!

Answer 3

No it is simply laughable that people somehow believe by resorting to the same sort of tactics of the enemy we are any better than them. Torture has been proven time and time again in numerous studies to provide inaccurate information. The prisoners will just say what they think you want to hear or lie completely to end the pain. Also waterboarding has been considered torture for several hundred years so the debate upon it is a little ridiculous it clearly violates the Geneva conventions.

Answer 4

According to the Geneva Conventions combatants must wear an insignia of rank and the army that they fight for. The Geneva Conventions wanted to make sure that real soldiers receive decent prisoner status and decent treatment.

With each war there are battle field criminals, not real soldiers, that rob dead and wounded soldiers bodies, and commit atrocities. Those criminals can legally, and should, be shot. They are criminals and should never be given the status of real soldiers.

Answer 5

1) the Geneva convention only applies to national uniformed solders (POW), a terrorist does NOT fight for a nation and does NOT wear a uniform hence he can not be a POW

2) we have never cut off fingers, poked with a red hot iron, or put bamboo shoots under the finger nails of our "insurgent" prisoners, things that have been criticized as torture include, standing for more than 8 hours (something 75% of our work force does every day) having an angry dog bark at them (something every mail man deals with every day) water boarding is creating the illusion that someone might drown (but no one has be drowned) not allowing the prisoners to pray,

3) we should never sink to the level of the enimey, we are the good guys and good guys dont hack of limps or heads, no we shouldnt resort to true torture tactics, we kill the monster but dont want to become the monster

Answer 6

The enemy has no concept of the Geneva convention. They hide behind women and children, do not wear any military uniforms, kill prisoners via beheading, etc. These are some of the current rules of the Geneva convention that they violate.

So if our enemy is not willing to follow the accepted rules of engagement outlined in the Geneva convention, why should the United States give them the same rights outlined under the Geneva Convention to their prisioners?

Your argument as to why we should give them these rights has to be a two way street. They need to obey it and we need to obey it. If they will not follow the rules, then why should we follow it? Because we are more civilized? Give me a break!

Answer 7

This is mostly from the Family values party, Who would Jesus torture? If captured what protection is an American soldier to have when it is known that we torture prisoners? And these clown have the audacity to make speeches about human rights, while holding men without trial, and torturing them, we export them to other countries for boiling oil treatment and worse, but here we try and drown you a little at a time for hour and days while alternating to beatings and freezing without sleep.

Answer 8

The rules of the Geneva convection only apply to wars that are declared. What is happening in Iraq and Afghanistan are not declared wars, therefore the rules of engagement do not apply.

Moral principles of prisoners is a bunch of bull sh@t! when speaking of gitmo. I really don't care what is done to those pigs. Personally I think they should be forced to eat pork daily and be rubbed down with bacon grease every day.

I believe that if we had dipped every piece of ammunition and every knife into pork fat and had advertise that fact, we wouldn't have the problems over there now! What muslim would want to die from a bullet dipped in pork fat?

Sorry if it sounds like I'm prejudiced against Islam/Muslims .... I AM!

Answer 9

We should find those who say they want to abandon the Geneva convention and torture them to find out their true feelings.
If they stick by their answer, then we should consider it.

Answer 10

i think it's atrocious how we are expected to adhere to the geneva conventions and yet our enemies were/are allowed to flaunt it. (china, north korea, japan,north vietnam,germany,iran,iraq,any islamic nation)
while keeping in mind that some of these nations did not sign on to the geneva accords.

what really gets my goat though, is that here we have our soldiers fighting to protect our freedom, in a hostile environment, making snap decisions while facing enemy fire, and people back home comfortable in their living rooms, with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight are advocating suing and prosecuting our soldiers for war crimes.

war is hell, mistakes happen, sometimes innocent people die. it's just the simple truth.