It clearly was... deny it?
2007-11-06 03:25:00 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Law & Ethics
there is a guy right here that answered this question that denies it...
2007-11-06 03:31:50 · update #1
They are either ignorant or evil. There's no two ways about it.
2007-11-06 03:29:08 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 3⤋
I haven't heard anyone deny it either. Even absent an citations on the asker's part, I will assume he is right and bite.
Our concept of justice is clearly derived from our Judeo-Christian roots, passing through Ancient Rome's politics and then through the magna-Carta and onto our own political revolution of the 18th Century.
None of that was part of the Native American culture, naturally.
So it is fair to say that the concept of justice was foreign and unknown to them until and maybe even well after the arrival of Europeans.
Our concept of justice, such as it is, requires a *mutual* understanding and participation in the system.
Since the Native Americans, at the time you are asking about, were not integrated into the system, it is not really fair to apply the concept of justice to the situation or not.
Clearly, it was not a situation that cries out "Justice was done!".
But that is separate and different from saying it was an "injustice" although it is easy to see how people can go from "Justice was not done" to "It was an injustice" if they don't consider the nuances of the meaning of "justice" as I explained above.
I would say it was neither just nor unjust, it just was(no pun intended) :)
Same goes for pioneers who may have been killed by Indians - their fate was not just, but it was not unjust either. It was simply external to the system of just/unjust.
(Aside: this is a big part of why we are having issues in Iraq too - our cultural values come from our history and don't mesh well with their separate history. No wonder they are resisting with all they have!)
2007-11-06 03:53:26 · answer #2 · answered by Barry C 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I havent ever heard anyone deny it. I think the horrible treatment of other cultures at the hands of americans is atrocious and embarrasing if dwelled upon....we owe them much more than we have ever given for compensation of crimes commited against them, not that we can change it by giving them anything but something had to be done, unfortunately it was too little too soon.
2007-11-06 03:35:44 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
IMO It's the same thing as the people who deny the holocaust.
Holocaust death toll is estimated at between 9 and 11 million.
The native death toll is estimated at between 11.5 million and up.
2007-11-06 15:01:54 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
That's why I think thanksgiving is such a stupid holiday. Based on what we learned in Elementary school, the Pilgrims would have died if not for the indians and they ended up slaughtering the indians, The indians should have let them die and probably wish they would have. It was awful, but I think they are doing a good job of paying us back with the casinos.
2007-11-06 03:44:05 · answer #5 · answered by Ktcyan 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
It was - but what exactly would you propose be done about it?
I am a Native American descendant - you can't turn back the clock and say "ooops" because all the people involved (both the wrong and the wronged) are no longer with us.
This is the problem - people want to talk about past wrongs as if they are chains that hold them down today ---- move on. The past is the past, and as long as we live in the past looking for solice for people who are long gone we can't move forward and live in today.
2007-11-06 03:30:46 · answer #6 · answered by Susie D 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I haven't found anyone that denies it was an injustice. But what good does do to continue to bring it up?.
2007-11-06 03:30:27 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
I don't know that so many folks do deny it. I for one really don't care. It doesn't affect me at all, so I don't worry about it. I have to get my house organized and exercise the dogs. I don't care what happened 300 years ago by other people.
2007-11-06 03:29:59 · answer #8 · answered by Flatpaw 7 · 1⤊ 2⤋
I haven't heard people deny it. It was an injustice in my opinion, and I would love to see how anyone could justify it.
2007-11-06 03:29:21 · answer #9 · answered by Leah 6 · 0⤊ 3⤋
I don't deny it. It's a chapter of American history that's even uglier than slavery, in my opinion.
2007-11-06 03:29:18 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
I've never heard anyone argue that point.
Worse yet, we haven't learned from this, and history will soon repeat itself when Mexico does it to us... it has started already.
2007-11-06 03:41:43 · answer #11 · answered by trooper3316 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋