Holocaust...?

Question

Why does everyone still believe this really happened?
Why is ISRAEL which was made 2 years after the war ended still pulling loads of money from Germany to this very day, when most of the "Holocaust" survivors are dead? What about the other people that died in WW2? 10 million russians died (compared to the "6 million Jews") and The USSR didnt take any more money than they needed from Germany, same with other countries who won the war.
Furthermore, why do the numbers keep fluctuating? After the war it was widely published that 16 million jews died, but when research went into this it was proved physically impossible to do that even in 5 years, so the number dropped to two. Now it is widely believed that between 5.4 and 6 million jews died.
The so-called diary of Anne Frank when researched, was found to be written by a type of ball-point pen, invented after the war, and mysteriously burnt before more investigation could be done.

Where are the mounds of Human Soot, the crematoriums capable of burning 6 million? The Human Soap? The curtains of human skin? Im serious- the government is promoting this!
There is no proof on the holocaust! The news and media was bribed, if not owned by the jews themselves, how would they get the billions on dollars out of Germany otherwise?
This plan has been in existance since 1916- check out this, even if the quality is bad
http://warrax.net/52/graf/pix/7.jpg
out of real archives.
i dont know how many of you can read russian, but http://tule.de.tt/ has a mountain of information against the holocaust.
I know a lot of people will say Im stupid, but what about the facts?

Well who are the 1000's of eye-witnesses?
And I have seen lots of 'footage" of the holocaust, it doesn't mean it real, who wouldnt make a multi billion movie? And about reparations, fine if they had to pay back so much to the jews, but why does it continue to this day?
And about the records, here is a quote from a holocaust defender, "The exact number is unknown, because in 1942, they stopped counting." Yep, real good records I think, but why do the numbers fluctuate so widely 30 years AFTER the war?
About physical impossibility, why would the Nazis spend large amounths of coal and machinery hauling the jews to the concentration camps to be gassed, when they were lacking fuel at the front lines? Why not shoot them on the spot? Another source in english: http://germandefenseleague.com/holopov.htm
And for your informations, Russians did not kill 90% of prisoners of war, they were letting them out of prisons in droves when the war ended.

What the **** are you on about Capt. Mark??
Best documented event in history? Do you know how stupid that sounds? All we have to go on the numbers is one man's signature..
Oh and of course you fought in WW2 yourself right? Its stupid people like you who will believe in anything would have lost us the war, German propaganda would have won you over in no time at all! And for you information what does everyone speaking German have to do with the Holocaust?? It didn't affect the war in ANY large measure you idiot.
Another question, why is it in most of Europe, an 8 year jail term for even questioning the Holocaust, let alone denying it?
By the way, Im not saying that absolutely no Jews dies during the war, i fully agree with you about Auschwitz' existence, and the Nazis hate of jews, I just dont agree with the number that is so widely published today, and the money-making scheme it is. Its not like Israel participated in the war!
Thankyou everyone who brought legitimate points into view.

Answer 1

You can't handle the truth !
Read about the real Holocaust,
the one, no one here wants to talk about,
120 million American Indians were killed to clear the way for todays America... "the land of the free"
compared to that number of dead,
there was no jew holocaust...

Answer 2

I've met people who were in the camps, I've seen the tattoos.
Worse the Germans were so sure of their rightness they documented their doings with photographs.
Germany did lose, and they were forced to do what most losing countries do, they paid reparations. They stole real estate and artworks and jewelry from the Jewish people, so many of them were dead that the reparations were made to the state of Israel. While Germany was at war with Russia, there was no war with Jews, it was just murder. I'm sorry you are not happy with six million dead Jews but they did keep fairly accurate records, a German point of pride.
And Anne Franks diary was contemporaneous and there are many people who will vouch for it.
I don't know why Holocaust deniers get off on their rants, its not a legitimate point of contention. But then there are people who still think the earth is flat.

Answer 3

The Holocaust did happen. I have talked to several people that survived this dark chapter in human history. BTW these same people have also expressed a great fear in the way America is heading. As for the Diary of Anne Frank. Yes several copies were rewritten from the actual Diary.

As for why we need to remember. We must always remember lest history does repeat itself. Just like we must remember the Native American massacures and the Japanese Interments.

Answer 4

I, too, have known Holocaust survivors, when I worked in a Jewish nursing home. One of them used to occasionally sit on the floor in the middle of the night and scream over and over "My name is ___________!" in Yiddish. He had the tattoos, as did the others I knew. I guess you'll say that proves the others didn't die because these three people were alive.

It is not at all unusual for numbers to fluctuate in the immediate aftermath of a large event. In fact, it's pretty much usual. As for the diary, it's convenient for you isn't it that it "burned up" before more investigation could be done. There is a lot more evidence that didn't burn up!

Answer 5

the mounds of human ash are in Aushvitz KL. I saw them with my own eyes.
The human soap is in Stutthof KL. I saw it with my own eyes.
The Holocaust did really happen

As to the reparations, the Russians took half of Germany. They did not take more because there was nothing more that could be taken. BTW they also killed 90% of german POW's

I would be careful as to "physically impossible" claims. half a milion people were murdered in Rwanda, with knives. In 4 months.

BTW the WW2 death toll in Russia is 20+ milion, though most of that was done by Stalin and blamed on Adolf.

Diary of Anne Frank written in ballpoint? Never heard of that one. But I saw the camps and the Palmiry forest, and the Katyn forest.

Answer 6

10 millions Russian and 6 millions Jews. I cannot believe it!!!

How many Jews were living at that time on the earth ???

I cannot believe there were more Jews than Russians at that time.

Note:

Current Israel Population: 6,5 millions

includes about 187,000 Israeli settlers in the West Bank, about 20,000 in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights, and fewer than 177,000 in East Jerusalem (July 2007 est.)

Answer 7

I've talked to some of the brave men that liberated the death camps. The memories of what they saw haunt them to this day. Where the Hell does some snot-nosed kid like yourself get off questioning one of the most well documented events in human history? Thank G*d that WWII wasn't fought by your generation. We would all be speaking German if it were up to delusional little cowards like you.

Answer 8

The problem with denying the holocaust is that the Germans were very good at documenting everything, it was almost an addiction. With the German documents that show numbers of people and what happened to them. There are mass graves that have been found but the Germans also found they couldn't dig graves quickly enough so they started burning bodies. When a body burns it turns in to ash which floats away what was left would not need to be piled but would make good fertiliser. Bones could go to glue to aid with the war effort.


Please go and visit some of the camps you don't believe existed, some are still there as museums.

http://www.auschwitz.org.pl

The camp commandant, Rudolf Höß, testified at the Nuremberg Trials that 3 million people had died at Auschwitz during his stay as a commandant. Later he decreased his estimate to about 1.1 million. The death toll given by the Soviets and accepted by many was 4,000,000 people. This number was written on the plaques in the Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum. The Museum revised this figure in 1990, and new calculations by Dr. Franciszek Piper now place the figure at 1.1 million about 90 percent of them Jews from almost every country in Europe. Most of the dead were killed in gas chambers using Zyklon B; other deaths were caused by systematic starvation, forced labor, lack of disease control, individual executions, and cruel medical experiments.

Please visit the Ann Frank House as well.

http://www.annefrank.org

I hope you have looked into the ball point pen finding as they were not in the diary but scraps of paper found with the diary and they also were in a different handwriting to that of Anne’s in the diary. As for the diary being lost before further work was carried out on this is a lie. Three further investigations into the accusation were carried out and all three came to the same agreement that the diary was not forged and that apart from the slips of paper (which can be seen in the new book) was written by Anne Frank. The diary is still in existence.

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Can you post at least one link to non propergandist website.

http://germandefenseleague.com/holopov.htm is an interesting website except for several basic errors.

- point 2 is correct for the beginning of the war but the policy changed latter making it incorrect for the complete time scale.
- Point 3 misses the point. Most Jews were highly skilled labour and could be used to do a job to a high standard freeing up German soliders.
- Point 4 admits that the Germans Gased people, your own evidence clear disproves you.
- Point 5 is difficault to prove as i can't find any evidence to back up there ever being a gas chamber or surgestion of a gas chamber in Dachau.
- Point 6 fails to include Professor Jan Markiewicz, Director of the Forensic Institute of Cracow, redid the analysis in 1990. Markiewicz decided that the Prussian blue test was unreliable because it depended on the acidity of the environment, which was low in the gas chambers. Markiewicz and his team used microdiffusion techniques to test for cyanide in samples from the gas chambers, from delousing chambers, and from living areas elsewhere within Auschwitz. The living quarter samples (negative controls) tested negative, while cyanide residue was found in both the delousing chambers and the gas chambers.
- Point 7 is semi true but it was Auschwitz III that was the chemical plant that used forced labour.
- Point 9 is incorrect. Rudolf Hoss stated his comments when appear as a witness again Ernst Kaltenbrunner, Oswald Pohl, and the IG Farben corporation. It was not beat out of him and he was handed over to the poles until two years later. When he was found guilt of murder he wasn't exicuted until a year later.
- Point 10 misses the point again. Most people getting corpse from the gas chambers where prisoners, the Germans didn't really care much for there welfare. Also the figure is intended to apply to ordinary, unventilated, commercial- or home-use buildings.
- point 11 is wrong The solution that the Nazis used, in the largest gas chambers, was to install ventilation systems that could completely recycle the air in under five minutes. There were also wire-mesh devices to remove the Zyklon-B from the chambers, improving the efficiency of the ventilation process.
- point 12 is false, The minimal concentration for Zyclon-B to cause an explosion is 56,000 parts per million. A concentration of 300 ppm kills humans within a few minutes.
- Point 13 misses the point. Apart from being a punishable crime to mention the process, see 1943 German court verdict against SS-Untersturmführer Max Taubner, the small touches like shower head, the "work" signs, the forced cooperation of the Sonderkommando; these were things placed so that any horrific rumors would be disbelieved by Jews right up until the end.
- Point 14 is false.
- Point 15 is wrong. Numerically speaking, most Jews died from gassing, second from shooting.
- point 17 misses the point again. Other flamibles were used like methane.
- Point 18 is wrong. Because of the lack of oxygen, an extreme heat is generated from the materials (bodies) it trying to consume. The heat becomes trapped and RAISES the temperature within, more effectively consuming the material and leaving little behind
- Point 19 not looking at the difference between furnaces In 1939, the firm of Topf and Sons was awarded a contract to build a Dachau furnace which had an estimated capacity of one corpse per hour per muffle. The In 1939, the firm of Topf and Sons was awarded a contract to build a Dachau furnace which had an estimated capacity of one corpse per hour per muffle.
- Point 21 is wrong. Consider only the two largest crematory facilities (out of five). Those two ovens alone, working at their full estimated capacity 24 hours a day from their installation in April 1943 to their decommissioning in November 1944, could have incinerated over 1.7 million corpses.

I could go on but here's a web site that answers all the questions http://www.geocities.com/onemansmind/hr/revisionist/Cl6601.html

Answer 9

find some acutal footage, it did happen.
Watch the movie Nuremberg Trials, it shows actual footage in the movie.
furthermore, The Germans kept everything on file that they did, they left a paper trail.

Answer 10

The Atheist Alliance and The American Atheists have stated that it did not occur and is just a ploy to keep people from being civil towards each other. They also state that the film footage is doctored and the victims liars and all of your history books are wrong.