Should the Government be charged under health and safety or corporate manslaughter laws?

Question

Can the death of four firemen, reportedly, trying to resuce immigrant workers sleeping in a warehouse in Worcester be directly attributed to the governments policy on immigration/migrantion Could they be charged with corporate negligence by deliberately and knowlingly abandoning safe practices on movement of people thus causing reckless endangerment to life of foreign nationals in Britain?

If so how could we prosecute or develop a class action?

Manforallseasons - It was on the 1 O'clock news on the BBC. Why is it that people assume that all questions are based on opinion. I asked because the Police were found guilty under health and safety law over the death of John Charles deMeneses (spelling?) If they can be found guilty for errors whilst carrying out their duties could it ever be applied to the government?

RT(R) you don't even understand the question. The point is that thousands of people who come here to work legally are sleeping and living in poor conditions. The firefighters were doing their job, but what about the employer? If this story has any truth to it (and I would expect the BBC to check it out before broadcasting) then people were put at risk through the actions of others. Be they immigrant workers unable to afford decent places to sleep or firemen sacrificing their lives to save them.

eriverpipe asks for my details so he can serve me with a class action. You don't allow e-mail contact so your implication of cowardice regarding identity is based around your own inadequacey.
As for the law, this government had the choice of using a moritorium like 17 of the other 18 members did (Ireland being the exceptoion) They are trying to use a moritrium on Bulgaria and Romanian nationals.
The point for you pontificating 'Liberals' is that the by not having controls it is the immigrants who are most exposed to abuse.
If you were asked to relocate you would expect your employer to pay reasonable removal expenses and not have to leave your family hundreds or even thousands of miles away for years at a time (Oil workers and Seamen aside.)
So employ welders/fruit pickers/packers in the jobs that people in this country 'don't want' or are too 'lazy' to do but pay what it really costs. The government in the bi-centenary year celebrating the law that signalled the 'end' of slavery

is allowing a new form of bonded labour.

Answer 1

It would be extremely difficult to incriminate the government even though it appears to have lost control of immigration.

Answer 2

The latest news reports have the Worcester authorities saying
'There is no evidence to support reports that there may have been workers inside the warehouse.'
If there had been, the likelihood in the current climate is that they would be of Eastern European origin. The Government CANNOT have a policy on such migrants - as EC citizens they have the right to free movement in the EC, there is NOTHING the Government can do to change that other than leaving the EC (though I see from your username that is what you would wish, I think you'd find you are ina minority - the majority preferring to stay with the EC rather than go it alone and die a hideous economic death).
If you would care to post your name and address (sorry, 'dare' rather than 'care') I shall serve a 'class action' (hideous Ameicanism) on you for promulgating falsehood in a provocative way. In either instance, your question is one of the biggest pieces of hogwash I've ever seen on YA (and God knows there's plenty of competition!)

Answer 3

No - even though it does appear that the Govn. policy on immigration is quite wrong, there are enough laws in place to ensure that the factory owners should not have been doing what they were doing, and they should be held responsible for what happened. Might seem a bit harsh, and yes there should be stronger laws in this area, but you have to apportion blame where it is due, and the employer clearly appears to have breached numerous H&S laws.

Answer 4

Who on earth said there were immigrants in this fire, the Daily Mail, or maybe one of it's thick readers, which means any one of all three of them, and the next we shall hear is that they started the fire.

We are about one second away from open racism in the UK, fostered by aforementioned rags and stupid 'vote for me' politicians, which is going to lead to bad things happening.

Answer 5

Government is liable for negligence if officials were not able to perform their tasks of assuring the people with public safety.

Answer 6

what? its a firefighters job to save lives. and to just arbitrarily say, sorry i'm not saving your life because you are so and so is morally and ethically wrong. and to try to get a suit because of them doing their jobs is just the same, wrong.

Answer 7

well you can keep voting them for other 15 years. It is a solution to the problem!!!!!! maybe not !!!!!!! who knows