what makes ppl say that male chivalry is dead or that its a thing of the past?

Question

okay thanks guys but i was looking for more sophisticated, hard-core type answers.

...you are one observant clone however i don't completely agree with your answer.

personally i don't think its dead just think that it needs some "readjustments".

Answer 1

You get back what you put in. I have noticed that if you treat most men (exclude the mentally unstable, emotionally injured ones) with respect, they return the same respect. You take care of them, they take care of you. Sounds pretty fair and alive to me.

Answer 2

chiv·al·ry /ˈʃɪvəlri/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[shiv-uhl-ree] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -ries for 6. 1. the sum of the ideal qualifications of a knight, including courtesy, generosity, valor, and dexterity in arms.
2. the rules and customs of medieval knighthood.
3. the medieval system or institution of knighthood.
4. a group of knights.
5. gallant warriors or gentlemen: fair ladies and noble chivalry.
6. Archaic. a chivalrous act; gallant deed.


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[Origin: 1250–1300; ME chivalrie < AF, OF chevalerie, equiv. to chevalier chevalier + -ie -y3]


chiv·al·ry (shĭv'əl-rē) Pronunciation Key
n. pl. chiv·al·ries

The medieval system, principles, and customs of knighthood.

The qualities idealized by knighthood, such as bravery, courtesy, honor, and gallantry toward women.
A manifestation of any of these qualities.
A group of knights or gallant gentlemen.


chivalry

noun
1. courtesy towards women
2. the medieval principles governing knighthood and knightly conduct

so this is what chivalry is....i had an idea about what it was but i wanted an exact definition....and i kindly put it here for fun and extra reading..

anyhow if that is what real chivalry is..then i am all for it!

i think its very sweet. and i dont care who thinks otherwise.

Answer 3

Chivalry is far from dead. Our judges are quite chivalrous if you look at how female criminals are sentenced vs. how male criminals are sentenced for the same crimes.

Our male politicians are also quite chivalrous. They stamp feminist laws with approval nearly every time.

Aside from that... men of today can gauge if the woman they are with wants to be treated in the traditional ways or if they're uptight & would fly into a tizzy over common courtesy.

Answer 4

Women never had to be taken care of by men...other than financially which really hasn't happened since the 1910's when women started working while men were at war. That's a cheap answer and little better than saying "I can do it myself"...which is what is received from 3 year olds when someone performs acts of kindness for them.

It has nothing to do with superiority or the inability to complete a task...but kindness.

My husband still opens doors for me and what not, I do kind gestures for him as well. We will teach our children to be kind and thoughtful to their friends and partners just as our parents taught us. Its not dead.

Answer 5

It puts the woman in a subordinate position, for one. Think of the classic Disney princesses (Cinderella, Snow White, Ariel). Each needed a night in shining armor to come rescue her from single-dom. The goal in each of their lives was to get married, and then the story was over. This is dead for the most part, because women have other goals in life in addition to (or besides) marraige.

It gets on my nerves when men open the door for me. I'm thinking "Do my arms look disfunctional?" They're just trying to be nice, but more and more people are realizing that women can do things on their own (finally!). The lessening of the gender gap and the blurring of the separate spheres in Western culture is the cause of this decline in 'male chivarly.'

Answer 6

Chivalry is impractical nowadays for the following reasons:

1) Chivalry is reserved for women who act like ladies. Women no longer act like ladies so they don't get chivalry.
2) Women have equality so it is not necessary.
3) Chivalrous men are not appreciated, they get a pat on the head, stuck in the friend zone and to watch the chick go off with a (non-chivalrous) bad boy.

It's not completely dead because there are men who haven't realized the above yet. We'll know when chivalry is dead when feminism is dead. The reason they don't have feminism in the middle east is because they never had chivalry to the same extent western cultures had it.

Answer 7

People who say stuff like this need to get a bit more life experience and learn to not be so paranoid and uppity.
Sorry, but it's true. There are worse things than *god forbid* a man holding a door open for you.
People need to get their priorities straight about the world and not worry over such a little thing.

Answer 8

well, chivalry was a gender code. I don't believe that it is completely dead but it is not a dominant gender expression in contemporary Western culture.

I'm a gender educator and one thing that I bring to my discussions and the classes I visit are that gender roles/expressions/codes change over time and depending on what culture one is in.

While some people might still perform chivalry as a gender code, it is not the dominant gender expression. So, it isn't dead as in extinct, but it isn't as prevalent a gender expression as it may have been before.

Amiko-Gabriel

Answer 9

Feminists consider chivalry "benevolent sexism."

Feminists say that any woman that likes men to open doors and treat her with courtesy is being dominated and oppressed.

Answer 10

I've always find chivalry lame. Women nowadays want equality, so chivalry is pretty much pointless and lame.

I will only be polite to the people that actually deserve it.