are conservatives worried that diplomacy might work?

Question

would they be heartbroken if Iran settled the nuclear dispute peacefully? seems like a lot of conservatives on here just LOVE war. (don't believe me, look at their answers to questions about iran or iraq. of course, they don't say they love war, but i think we can all agree: actions speak louder than words. by supporting every way the u.s. can possibly get in, you send a strong message about your own moral fiber.)

way should be "war"

a bush family member: i see you don't intend to find out.

Answer 1

I'd be happy if Ollie North just hadn't sold Iran all those weapons and munitions. One plus would have been that the vice president at that time would not have rec'd so much money for his share that he could afford to corrupt two later elections.

Answer 2

Why would you make a blanket statement like that? I'm a conservative, and I support the ongoing war. It's not like we didn't give diplomacy a chance. Don't you think that 10 years of diplomacy, sanctions et al were enough? I haven't heard anyone in the current administration saying that we should attack Iran. They've said that we should keep all options on the table, including military action, but the front running democratic presidential nominees are saying the same thing.
When it comes to Iraq, those against the war forget that the UN passed at least 17 different sanctions against Iraq, and authorized the use of force to bring Iraq in line with the sanctions.
You may call me a "warmonger" and that's your right to do that, however, I'm also a former member of the military, and as such, I can tell you with certainty that no soldier, airman, sailor or marine wishes for war, because THEY are the ones who will be asked to put their lives on the line for the country, but they know that sometimes war is necessary. If diplomacy is enough to get Iran to give up it's ambitions of nuclear weapons, and the destruction of Israel, so much the better. I'll be one of the first to jump for joy. But, if diplomacy doesn't work, are you willing to take the chance that the leader of Iran was "just joking" when he said that Israel should be wiped from the worlds memory?

Answer 3

Diplomacy takes two reasonable parties that must be willing to compromise and discuss the issues in good faith. Recent history has shown that even the Middle Eastern governments cannot use diplomacy when trying to deal with the radical, Islamic militants. (Mosque takeover and hostage situation in Pakistan - after days of trying to negotiate the hostage - human shields - release, the Pakistani troops ultimately had to storm the Mosque) All the while, many demonstrations by people who supported the militants' actions were blocking roads and causing more chaos. Why do so many people believe that if their own government can't settle these crisis's with diplomacy that we infidels can?
And no, I do not "love war" and I am not a warmonger - I am, however, realistic. Of course I'd like to see all of the world's problems solved by diplomacy - but not while the opposing party continues to slaughter thousands of innocent men, women and children. That's not diplomacy, that's just plain idealistic, unrealistic and down right stupid.
Speaking of "moral fiber" - how moral is it to allow these atrocities to continue with impunity while we sit on the sidelines and look on?

Answer 4

Since we're just discussing the war mongering of the conservatives on this board, don't worry about them. They're in the minority. The majority of Americans believe in diplomacy first and then if there's a clear and present danger still existing, we erase the danger. We've learned the hard way what impulsive knee-jerk reactions can lead to and I, for one, don't believe we'll be inclined to make that mistake again. We are still bogged down in Iraq even though there are signs of progress. We will be there a long time yet and it wouldn't make any sense at all to begin a war with Iran while engaged in Iraq, Afghanistan, and possibly facing a commitment in Pakistan, which does have nuclear weapons.

Answer 5

Having served in the US Navy, and being a conservative, I'd love if diplomacy works. War isn't fun and I don't think anyone who has served in the military would tell you otherwise. I just think that the fear is if diplomacy just gives Iran enough of a stall for them to develop the weaponry that can be used against us. I really would rather not be at war with Iran if we can avoid it, but I also don't believe that pacification is the correct route either. Diplomacy requires compromise on both sides and right now, no one is budging.

Answer 6

I will stop short of calling Iran a terrorist nation, however diplomacy seems to have little value in that region of the world. there is so much hate towards the west , and Israel that you will always have limited results. Diplomacy generally is and should be the first option, but when it fails ( as it often does) you cant just try more of the same, there must be a backup contingency. the world is a dangerous place you cant say im going to count to 3 reach 3 and do nothing, nor can you ask what would change your mind and when the answer is nothing ask the same question again.

Answer 7

We are going the diplomatic route with sanctions against Iran, and possibly Israel will do the war for us.

I really do not understand the liberals have with our presidents struggle to spread a moral democracy around the world.

I would love to see the dispute with Iran's nuclear program settled peacefully. It was done with North Korea, we believe.

However, I am not against doing what we have to do to keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of Iran.

Peace!


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Answer 8

It depends.

If by "conservatives" you mean the Old Right, traditional conservatives, then no. We would much rather see all conflicts resolved peaceably.

If, on the other hand, by "conservative" you mean the neo-cons like Bush, Cheny, and the PNAC, then yes. Peaceful resolution to the middle eastern conflicts would slow the expansion of their one world government.

I would, however, like to remind you that Hillary Clinton, the left's darling golden child, is not willing to take the possibility of a nuclear first strike against Iran off the table. Makes you wonder if she's not a neo-con herself. To be honest she sounds a lot like Rudy.

Answer 9

How can diplomacy work with a nation whose leader has repeatedly stated destruction to the USA and Israel?

Neville Chamberlain negotiated with the Nazi's and we negotiated with the Japs and got Pearl Harbor in Return and London got the Blietzkrieg.

Teddy Roosevelt had it right, Walk Softly, and carry a Big Stick.

Too many Americans only get the ultra-left moveon.org perspective news and do not realize the freedoms we enjoy are not and were not FREE.

Answer 10

Diplomacy settled the NK issue. They STILL don't realize that there is no military solution in Iraq. For the sake of illustration, they are willing to kill 1 bacterium every minute while they reproduce every few seconds...it's pointless!!