British Justice.. two thumbs up!!?

Question

I have always thought that British justice had a very good level of fair play, and here is one case that bolsters my confidence in modern court justice. Despite what this man was doing in the UK or what his status was, the police or anyone else in a civil society cannot just go around shooting people regardless the circumstances. unfortunately the police in the U.S are vindicated far too often by their police departments and racist juries. Kudos for the juries/people of the UK in this case

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/articles/2007/11/01/menezes_emails_feature.shtml

Answer 1

Well i don't know about justice in UK, i have seen so many instances of miscarriages of justice that i wonder quite where our judicial system is going. As to this poor man, he was killed unlawfully and its a sad day when the family aren't going to get any justice for his death. Those involved are to blame, even if they believed this man to be a terrorist, which he wasn't there seems to be something that stinks about this case.

Answer 2

I remember about ten years ago a policeman shot a pregnant girl to death as the man they wanted was hiding behind her , they got commendations for it!! I also remember a child about six years old a sleep in bed being shot to death because he moved . I also remember an innocent man on the pavement had a revolver emptied into him and because he was still alive the plain clothed officer clubbed him over the head with the gun, the man was not implicated what so ever, not one of these officers was even reprimanded for there bumbling action. "British police" before terrorism

Answer 3

its not the first time by any means that the uk police have shot an entirely innocent man by mistake as i was once nearly one of them.
about 10 years ago i was just waiting in line in a building society when 2 men burst in brandishing pistols. one of them grabbed me and pushed me against the counter and stuck his pistol to my forehead . the whole time both of them were shouting hysterically at the other customers. they were so deranged i actually thought they were robbers. although i was scared i asked the one holding the gun to my head who he was, he just kept shouting at me we're the effing police who do you think we are?
luckily the manageress who had heard the row came through from a back room and the 2 idiots calmed down when she told them that she hadnt reported any hold up.
the 2 morons slunk off without as much as an apology, luckily the bulding society manageress apologised profusely.
i'll never forget the look in that cops eyes as long as i live he must have been clinically insane.
the mistake is putting lethal weapons in the hands of imbeciles, the average policeman is too thick to be trusted with a firearm.
so don't blame blair it's mostly the dimwits he has to employ that are at fault.

Answer 4

Its all words, who`s been imprisoned or even sacked over it no one, the man incharge of the whole thing refuses to take responsibility. so were is the justice. i live in the UK and have no faith in it. the police and other government officials cover up for one another.

Answer 5

You're probably right about the impartiality of British justice, as a rule, and it's certainly true that American justice is far from perfect, especially when investigating the police is concerned, but I'd like to add that, in my experience, coverage of America in Europe is ludicrously biased. Racism in particular is hugely overrated in European coverage of America. For instance - did you know that a convicted murderer is quite a bit more likely to get the death penalty if he's white than black?

I suspect that justice in nearly every country is lamentably far from impartial, but in America, because it's such a big place, with lots of noisily competing interests, someone somewhere in America is more likely to claim that someone else is doing things the wrong way than is the case in smaller, more culturally homogenous nations worldwide. Just because few Japanese complain about miscarriages of justice doesn't mean few happen, just that there are few critical observers standing outside the establishment pointing them out. The same small-group solidarity probably operates in Portugal or Switzerland. But there are plenty of Americans outside of Texas eager to point out flaws in the Texas judicial system. (How often do European journalists examine the Minnesota or Maine or Connecticut judicial systems?)

This effect is magnified because, both as an unconscious side effect of pan-European nationalism and because of political objections to the loathsome Current Occupant of the White House, journalists, who are worldwide generally leftist, find stories about American miscarriages of justice 'newsworthy.'

When you crunch the numbers, much European received wisdom just ain't so. Every European knows that America is crime ridden, right? Actually, except for actual murders, America ranks lower, sometimes much lower, in many crime areas, from assault to burglary to car theft to heroin use, than many European nations. I used to go for walks through different areas of Chicago for hours after midnight several times a week for 15 years or so, never had a problem.

(The reverse is also true. If you correct for differences in methodology in calculating American and European unemployment rates, for instance counting whether prison inmates or 'discouraged' workers are unemployed, American and European unemployment rates are much closer than is generally reported. But journalistic tropes require that this not be reported, because it's a weapon journalists in Europe can use to bash their governing politicians, and journalists in America can use to trumpet our economic model. Also, be prepared over the next few years for a distortion in America of outcomes of European health care systems, as the Republicans try to make it seem as if everyone in Europe, home of 'socialized' medicine, is at death's door.)

Answer 6

Do you have any idea what the Brits have done to my people in the name of 'justice'?
Read up on Irish history.

British justice! What a laugh.

Answer 7

that's good, the LAPD (or any other police dept. in the u.s) NEVER get into trouble no matter what they do (illegal tasing for the most minor issue,gun lashing, shooting the wrong person etc etc) hell they don't even get investigated for it.