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By taking logarithms, find the smallest possible integer, n, for which 4^n < 5^(n-1)

Ive been puzzled over this for ages. Any help is really appreciated!

2007-11-02 14:26:04 · 5 answers · asked by Stevie B 2 in Science & Mathematics Mathematics

5 answers

4^n < 5^(n-1)

taking logs

n log 4 < (n-1) log 5

0.602 n < 0.7( n - 1)

0.602n < 0.7 n - 0.7

subtract 0.602 n from both sides

0< 0.1 n - 0.7

add 0.7 both sides

0.7 < 0.1n

divide by 0.1

0.7/0.1 < n

n>7/1



so smallest integer that satisfies the given condition is 8

2007-11-02 14:54:03 · answer #1 · answered by mohanrao d 7 · 0 0

Try a sneaky approach, take the log base 4 of both sides, then
n < n-1 log4 (5) which is appx n= (7/6)*(n-1)
You should be able to get a value of n for this.

2007-11-02 14:35:14 · answer #2 · answered by cattbarf 7 · 0 0

Take ln of both sides:-
n ln 4 < (n - 1) ln 5
1.39 n < (n - 1) (1.61)
1.39 n < 1.61 n - 1.61
1.61 < 0.22 n
n > 7.32
Smallest integer is 8.

2007-11-02 21:41:38 · answer #3 · answered by Como 7 · 0 1

I took the logs n set fire to them

2007-11-02 15:14:57 · answer #4 · answered by Luv 2 Larf 2 · 0 0

ln4^n=ln5^(n-1)
nln4=(n-1)ln5
nln4=nln5-ln5
nln4-nln5=-ln5
n(ln4-ln5)=-ln5
n=-ln5/(ln4-ln5)
n=ln5/(ln5-ln4)
n=7.2

2007-11-02 14:33:17 · answer #5 · answered by someone else 7 · 1 0

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