Clinton Used Weapons Banned by Geneva Against American Kids in Waco. Why Can't Bush Waterboard?

Question

Clinton used weapons against US citizens in Waco that were banned under the Geneva Convention.

And, 31 little innocent American kids ended up dying.

Now. Tell me what's so bad about waterboarding terrorists.

Answer 1

Not to mention that two awful things don't make any awful thing "Good" your data is very faulty on several points.

This was launched by Bush People, who were as incompetent as any Bush II people, with the Republicans holding up Reno's appointment till after the original attack on the compound. So even at the end Bush folks were the only ones in charge on the ground.

Reno's only mistake was taking them for competent humans.

The folks at Waco were terrorists with a huge arms cache they intended to use on Americans. They were as much a Theofascist death cult as any Islamist. Does the Oklahoma Bombing come to mind?


They had considerable child sex abuse going on with several children giving birth to children as a result.

Faced with all the facts coming out and the humiliation of arrest the people inside torched their own, and Murdered all that did not go along.

If they had had any concern for anyone they would not have built a firetrap in the first place, to say nothing of dousing it with gasoline before killing themselves.

But to say that because these people died, and even allowing your wildest fantasy, that such a disaster would justify horrific torture of anyone much less innocents "purchased" from our "allies" among the heroin warlords of Afghanistan, makes you worse than even those evil people in your fantasies.

Thanks for the two points

Answer 2

I would say it was the Branch Dividians fault when they machine gunned Federal Agents serving a lawful warrant. The Branch Dividians were given many opportunities to let the women and kids out of the compound. They were given many opportunities to surrender. They refused every single one. Law Enforcement didn't use weapons against the Branch Dividians that were banned by the Geneva Convention. The Branch Dividians committed suicide by putting the kids in buried school bus, dousing the entire compound with gasoline and lighting it up. Personally, I think it was poorly handled. The government should have just given the warrant to local law enforcement and arrested sundry Branch Dividians when they came into town. But, Bill Clinton didn't make those decisions. The ATF and, ultimately, Janet Reno did. I have never heard any government official express any pride about the mass suicide at the Branch Dividian compound. However, it was the lunacy of David Koresh that caused the mass suicide at Waco. He bears the blame. May God have mercy on his soul.

Answer 3

Easy: waterboarding is torture... pure and simple. Until this president Americans did not use torture as a policy to extract information or conduct interrogations.

Tear gas was used in Waco.. Tear gas is used to control civil populations all over the world when they riot or a extreme situation needs to be policed.

This was SUCH a easy question. Thank you.

And BTW, I don't think the ATB should have used tear gas so I am not defending it.... I also am a rational adult who does not justify one predint's form of torture to another's. Both are wrong... just because Clinton did it (and he actually did not the ATB did, it was legal --and is still legal; this current prsident is PROTECTING and maybe calling for torture; that is a BIG difference).... this isn't a game about "Well, he did it too!!!!!!"

Answer 4

Good job trying to incite emotion by using kids. I'm quite sure tear gas is not mentioned in the Geneva convention, but alas, this question didn't inspire me enough to look it up.

And it wasn't Clinton, of whom I am no fan. It was the ATF. Not an Executive branch of government, but a mere law enforcement agency on a federal law level.

It doesn't take much brains to see why the siege occurred. Some concerned parent would have complained to law enforcement that their ex-spouse kidnapped their child by not allowing them visitation because they were too busy following the new messiah.

Knock knock. Open up. No? OK, here's some tear gas persuasion. Just because a fire broke out from either arson or a malfunction of a gas canister doesn't mean you should blame Clinton, Bush, or religion. Blame David and that parent that didn't follow court rules.

Answer 5

I don't know what is wrong with waterboarding..

Seems a bunch of libs are trying to make political hay out of this waterboarding by trying to appear to take the moral high ground in a hypothetical situation. However, should the situation become real their answer would be a lot different and so would their actions.

Answer 6

Clinton didn't cause Waco fool, Koresh did. Your arguments are about as solid as Bush's for WMDs in Iraq.
You're moot.

Answer 7

Is this the way you justify everything? Is this how you sleep at night?
Whenever your lot act apallingly, you find some tenuous link to something a goverment agency did in the 90s (for which you choose not to provide any source- funny hey?) and then say "Clinton did it and it was worse"?
And Republicans have the nerve to call liberals moral relativists.

Answer 8

After WWII, we prosecuted Japanese military officials who "waterboarded" American POWs. Where has our moral compass Gone? WWJD? Did Jesus Waterboard Pontius Pilate, or Barabas, or the Pharisees?

Answer 9

Not 1 damn thing is wrong with it. Kill all stinking terrorists !

Better method for Slick Willie : have him strapped down and be forced to listen to continous Ronald Reagan speeches. He might LEARN something, but having to listen to logical thinking will drive him up a wall !

Answer 10

Not to mention using the military against Americans- thanks Wes Clark. And what harm were those crazy Waco cats to anyone else to have warranted that???