"Wali and Geri are the two wolves seeking to devour the sun and the moon."
Maybe you should let a heathen answer this?? mmmk, thanks......
And so you know, it is Sköll and Hati that continually chase and eventually catch the sun and moon, Geri is one of Odin's wolves, the other is Freki. Where you got your info from I have no freakin idea, but it is WAY off......
"They signify the two sins of gluttony and greed. Greed (Wali) robs our mind of reason (the devouring of the sun) while gluttony/lust robs us of our emotional abilities (devouring the moon)."
And this is found in the lore where exactly.....................?
"In the story there is the eternal chase accross the skies for the sun and moon to keep helping and guiding all living things and that when we seem to fail we should redouble our efforts."
Im sorry.................WHAT??!!??!!
To answer your question Firefly. Vali was born of Odin by the giantess Rindr solely to avenge Baldrs death, he grew to full maturity in one day. Here is the stamza from Baldrs draumar:
"Rindr will bear Váli
in western halls;
that son of Óðinn
will kill when one night old—
he will not wash hand,
nor comb head,
before he bears to the pyre
Baldr's adversary. "
Here is what is mentioned of him from Völuspá:
There formed from that stem,
which was slender-seeming,
a shaft of anguish, perilous:
Hǫðr started shooting.
A brother of Baldr
was born quickly:
he started—Óðinn's son—
slaying, at one night old.
In regards to the Vali mentioned by vivo en un arbol:
From Gylfaginning in the Prose Edda:
"Now Loki was taken truceless, and was brought with them into a certain cave. Thereupon they took three flat stones, and set them on edge and drilled a hole in each stone. Then were taken Loki's sons, Váli and Nari or Narfi; the Æsir changed Váli into the form of a wolf, and he tore asunder Narfi his brother. And the Æsir took his entrails and bound Loki with them over the three stones: one stands under his shoulders, the second under his loins, the third under his boughs; and those bonds were turned to iron."
If you need or would like any more information let me know, it is best to ask those of us who practice the faith questions of this nature instead of muddled,ridiculous mumbo-jumbo.....no offense han-ko, but leave the heathen stuff to the heathens.
" In Gesta Danorum (swedish bible) the figure Bous corresponds to Váli."
Ummmmmm, Gesta Danorum is NOT the "swedish bible" but the history of the Danes (Denmark) written by Saxo.
2007-11-01 03:45:25
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answered by Thrudheim 3
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The real answer is: Vali is a son of Odin by the giantess Rind. He took vengeance for the death of Balder, the first son of Odin, by killing Hodr. Vali will survive Ragnarok, along with his brother ViÄar, who is destined to avenge the death of Odin by killing the Fenris wolf.
Vali and ViÄar are known as the avenging brothers.
2007-11-01 10:43:59
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answered by Robin Runesinger 5
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In Norse mythology, Váli is a son of the god Odin and the giantess Rindr. He was birthed for the sole purpose of killing Höðr as revenge for Höðr's accidental murder of his half-brother, Baldr. He grew to full adulthood within one day of his birth, and slew Höðr. Váli is fated to survive Ragnarök.
There is another Váli, a son of Loki by Sigyn, who was transformed by the gods into a slavering wolf who tore out the throat of his brother Narfi to punish Loki for his crimes. In Norse mythology, Váli was a son of Loki. He is mentioned in the Gylfaginning section of Snorri Sturluson's Prose Edda. After the death of Baldr the Ãsir chase down and capture Loki:
"Now Loki was taken truceless, and was brought with them into a certain cave. Thereupon they took three flat stones, and set them on edge and drilled a hole in each stone. Then were taken Loki's sons, Váli and Nari or Narfi; the Ãsir changed Váli into the form of a wolf, and he tore asunder Narfi his brother. And the Ãsir took his entrails and bound Loki with them over the three stones: one stands under his shoulders, the second under his loins, the third under his boughs; and those bonds were turned to iron."
The two figures named Váli may originally have been conceived of as the same being. In Gesta Danorum (swedish bible) the figure Bous corresponds to Váli.
The first answer is clueless. Wali (Arabic ÙÙÙ, plural Awliya' Ø£ÙÙÙاء; Farsi and Turkish pronunciation Vali), is an Arabic word, meaning trusted one, or friend. It should not be confused with the word WÄli (Arabic: ÙاÙÙ) which is an administrative title that was used in the Muslim Empire and still used nowadays in some Muslim countries.
2007-11-01 11:05:41
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answered by Anonymous
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Another question on Norse/Germanic mythology? Is there a point in this? If so perhaps you should drop me a mail.
Wali and Geri are the two wolves seeking to devour the sun and the moon. They signify the two sins of gluttony and greed. Greed (Wali) robs our mind of reason (the devouring of the sun) while gluttony/lust robs us of our emotional abilities (devouring the moon). In the story there is the eternal chase accross the skies for the sun and moon to keep helping and guiding all living things and that when we seem to fail we should redouble our efforts.
Thanks Trudheim for the corrections. I gladly shall leave it to you. My knowledge is indeed via too many intermediaries, who have a lot of quarrels about it (some friends in heathen group) and my memory might have muddled it up further
2007-11-01 09:49:42
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answered by han_ko_bicknese 3
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http://www.google.com/search?q=Vali&domains=www.northvegr.org&sitesearch=www.northvegr.org
Anything you might want to know.
Vivo was right, I stand corrected and have learned not to try to think before my coffee lol
Email one of us on lore. We can help you out
2007-11-01 10:27:50
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answered by ~Heathen Princess~ 7
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Norse God of the battlefield.
Norse God of Justice, by others.
Second wife of Loki was Sigyn and he had two children with her. They were named: Vali and Narvi.
By others, Rind Germanic Earth-Goddess, or Giantess is said to be the mother, by Oðinn of Vali.
Thirdly, as mentioned in Vidar's "bio" - a son of Odin and Grid, he had a twin brother named Vali. He dwelled in Vidi and was one of the strongest of the gods and was considered a god of vengeance. It is said that in the Ragnarok he would avenge his father by killing Fenrir. He is one of the Aesir who will survive the final battle.
One of the legends surrounding Loki tells about an incident that occurred when he had attended a feast given by Asgard. During this feast, Loki had an exciting time tormenting the other guests with insults and sneers. It was during this feast, the other gods and goddesses lost their patience with Loki. Up until now, they had tolerated him. To escape their wrath, Loki turned himself into a salmon. Odin however, located the fish and sent out an expedition to catch it. When he had been captured, they placed him in a dark cave. Then his son Vali was transformed into a wolf and immediately attacked his poor brother Narvi and killed him. Narvi's intestines were then used to bind Loki beneath the dripping mouth of a venomous snake. It's in this dreadful place that Loki awaits Ragnarok, then he will emerge from the cave to lead an army of evil and fight with the gods in the final battle. It is during this battle that Loki will meet his end.
Vali slain an obscure Norse Deity, called the Blind God, Hoder, who was tricked into slaying Balder by Loki.
Vali's fate is to survive Ragnarok, and come to the meadows of Idavoll with the other survivors, to build the world again.
2007-11-01 10:01:18
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answered by Mirko 7
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