is it correct not to use your bike's rear brakes while tackling a corner?Why so?
2007-11-01 01:12:50 · 13 answers · asked by indys 1 in Cars & Transportation ➔ Motorcycles
What's the correct procedure to halt/brake hard in a corner.
2007-11-01 01:19:13 · update #1
I've seldom seen so much misinformation in one thread. With a few exceptions, such as Patrick H and one or two others, many of the responses here are one-sided or just plain wrong. Here's the straight poop: There are experts out there--by which I mean former champion racers or trainers of current and former champions--who advocate all three of the braking techniques mentioned; i.e., doing all braking before beginning a turn (e.g., Keith Code); using the rear brake in the turn itself (e.g., Nick Ienatsch) and using the front brake in the turn itself (e.g., Freddie Spencer). All of these techniques work, although people will go to their graves arguing about which is best. It is absolutely fine to use no braking after the turn-in point in a corner, and to use countersteering as your only means of turning the bike. However, the effect of braking after turn-in ("trail braking") is, as another poster has stated, to change the bike's rake and trail and to compress the suspension; in other words, exactly what countersteering does. While braking with either the front or rear brake will transfer weight forward and precipitate this effect, it is more pronounced with the front brake, for obvious reasons. This is an advanced technique. Using the front brake where traction is compromised is a good way to cause a crash. Regarding Jerry "Motorman" Palladino, I have not seen his video, but will force someone to buy it for me for Christmas. However, I've seen his ads many times, and his techniques appear to be marketed to riders of "cruisers and large touring motorcycles." I think he is largely concerned with low-speed maneuvering, not sport riding, although I will reserve judgment until I have seen the video.
2007-11-03 17:30:16 · answer #1 · answered by Curtis G 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
ANY exclusive front brake usage on a bike with the wheel in ANY position except NEUTRAL (as in pointed straight ahead) will try to throw you over and possible down the bike.
If you MUST use brakes in a turn then small amounts of rear "friction" is OK. Obviously use SMALL amounts of either brake ONLY.
Let me suggest the "Ride Like A Pro 4" video/training DVD from http://www.ridelikeapro.com.
It will give you some SUPER training on bike brake/clutch usage and control in general. I am not affiliated with them at all but am a big fan of this video. I have been riding for over 30 years and this video has improved my control & confidence by a tremendous amount. It is basically a training course for the Motorcycle Cop skill test. After a few hours of practice you will be an "Ace"....
Just My .02 cents.
RAS
2007-11-01 07:25:01 · answer #2 · answered by rasdebol 1 · 0⤊ 1⤋
By asking this question, you've proven that you haven't taken an MSF course. Get off your duff and sign up for one. It'll save your life.
The rear brake in a corner AT SPEED is a good way to low-side. It is a good technique to drag the rear brake when making very low speed turns, especially on sport bikes, when the bars are completely at their lock. Like several people have said... for corners:
- Slow
- Look
- Lean
- Roll (throttle)
Braking is NOT on the list.
2007-11-01 10:13:47 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
"Trail braking" is using the rear brake lightly, to straighten you up in a corner; but is a technique you need to practice carefully; preferably in a riding school. Over-apply the rear brake going fast into a corner, and you'll lock the rear up, with disastrous consequences.
A scooter is a good machine to practice on, because on those machines the technique can be applied at low speeds.
2007-11-01 02:48:44 · answer #4 · answered by AndrewG 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Going fast into a corner and hard on the brakes takes the weight off the rear wheel and makes it useless. It will lock easily and make you fishtail throwing off your turn in line through corner. Get your braking done before corner than release brake, turn in, throttle out.
2007-11-01 02:27:48 · answer #5 · answered by Bryan W 4 · 3⤊ 1⤋
correct procedure to halt/break through a corner is to stand the bike upright THEN get on the brakes bringing the bike to a stop
2007-11-01 02:50:31 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
I don't entirely agree with posting above...in low speed, tight corners, I slip the clutch and use rear brake at the same time to control lean angle—more brake, the bike tightens up and leans farther—less brake and it straightens up more. This was taught at police motorcycle school for doing tight manuevers. In "normal" cornering, the technique is to have your speed correct before entering the corner, proper gear selected, etc., then roll on the throttle slightly to accelerate through the turn...accelerating slightly causes the suspension to tighten up and makes the bike more stable...K ;o)
2007-11-01 01:43:10 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 2⤋
If you were not given the paperwork for the 3 month warranty - then you have no warranty. Get the brakes sorted asap. The brake master cylinder is leaking and will need to be replaced - potentially the servo as well.
2016-04-11 07:49:16 · answer #8 · answered by Pamela 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
1. Brake before the corner, accelerate out. Especially if you are a newbie.
2. TRAIL BRAKING is dabbing at your FRONT BRAKE to load the front end, shorten the fork legs, and effectively REDUCE THE TRAIL of your motorcycle.
2007-11-01 06:29:20 · answer #9 · answered by patrickh 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋
1. Not correct.
2.Why? It can cause the bike to piviot.
2007-11-01 02:58:41 · answer #10 · answered by Date Dr. 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋