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I recently saw 2 people who alluded to Bush stealing the old election. I know one of them is intelligent, so that surprised me.

And for the final time, no matter how much you hate Bush and/or don't like reality, they counted those ballets 4 times BEFORE the US Supreme Court stopped the counting with an additional count after the official counting ended. In each count, no matter who counted and how they were supervised (Gore's and Clinton's people were all over it) Bush still won. Period.

The Supreme Court was Clinton's for 8 years, so why do people assume they were in Bush's pocket? They were about evenly divided between conservatives and liberals plus all the judges were approved by congress. The rule of law was followed, every single step of the way.

It is history and reality. No matter how badly you don't like reality, it is still reality. Gore lost by a slim margin that was verified by Gore's and Clinton's own people. Enough already, OK?

2007-10-31 08:33:09 · 18 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Politics

Time to move on and look to the future without crying about the past. Reality can be unpleasant, but that does not mean you can complain saying it was not right. Life is not fair, deal with it. Move on.

2007-10-31 08:34:27 · update #1

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I did not bring this up, read again. I saw two other people CLAIM" this as fact. All I did was comment about some other poor, deluded folks still believing this fantasy. How quaint

2007-10-31 08:41:57 · update #2

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Following is a study done on the 2000 election:

>>Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:

1. Population of counties won by: Gore: 127 million; Bush: 143 million;
2. Square miles of land won by: Gore: 580,000; Bush: 2,427,000;
3. States won by: Gore: 19 Bush: 29 (yet Gore almost won the Presidency)
4. Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Gore: 13.2, Bush 2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country. Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements living off government welfare." Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency & apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some 40 percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase. Thats right, living totally off the governments checks.<<

The Electoral college is, not only, a regulation of the US Constitution which I hold inviable, but is a vital tool in ensuring that every American has a voice in the election of the President. I know that what is popular is almost always wrong and if we left it up to what is popular Paris Hilton would be our President.

2007-10-31 09:14:50 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 4

I'm sure there are Libs out there who think Gore won the election, but of course as usual, they are wrong. Gore did have more popular votes, but had more electoral votes, which is how the President is elected and has been for the past 200 years. Since the Libs did not get their way, now they want to change the system. But again that would be a terrible idea. There was a reason our Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution this way, they were very smart people.

There are a number of reasosns It was done by the Electoral College. A few of which are so the "mob" can't influence the election of a President and every of the 50 states has a say in the election and not just the most populous ones.

I always like to use this as an example: The World Series is a best of seven series. The team that wins 4 games wins it all. Let's say Team A wins Game 1 20-0. Then Team B wins the next 4 games 1-0, 1-0, 1-0, 1-0. Team A scored more runs (20) than Team B (4), but Team B is the champion because they won more games (4 to 1). Electoral College vs. Popular votes is the same concept.

2007-10-31 15:52:47 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 3 4

Yep, I find it difficult to understand, too. Regardless of what the Supreme Court said, liberal organizations like the NYTimes and the ACLU counted and re-counted those votes to find how "Bush stole the election." Each and every time they discovered that not only did Bush win the election, but that he won overwhelmingly. Now, why wouldn't liberals believe their own organizations who tried so hard to prove that Bush stole the election and couldn't?

Indeed, when the Supreme Court decided the case, all the votes were NOT counted. The absentee votes were not counted at that time. When they WERE counted, it was determined that Bush had won the popular vote as well. Again, both the NYTimes and the ACLU found that to be the case more than once.

That's what I mean by liberals absolutely refusing to accept the truth no matter who tells them. They believe what they want and anyone who tells them something that disagrees with what they believe, is wrong.

Sure, that "guy who testified that the election was rigged" is on the very solid, reliable YouTube and not on, say, World News Tonight? He didn't even have an interview with Dan Rather!

2007-10-31 15:53:31 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2 4

First, we are a nation of laws, and we must follow the law even if we disagree with it. One of the great things about America is that a dispute over power such as this one can be settled without the bloodshed that would have occurred in so many other countries. That is another reason why America is one of the greatest nations on Earth.

Having said that, the ruling in the Supreme Court was made by the smallest possible margin, 5-4, and the justices who were in the minority wrote scathing opinions about the decision. All the votes were not counted at any time, and now they never will be. No one doubts that fact. The only argument is whether the additional votes should have been counted or not.

2007-10-31 15:50:28 · answer #4 · answered by Don P 5 · 5 3

Well not only did he win the popular vote but he also won in Florida but Katherine Harris prevented Gore from getting the electoral votes. This is not a brainbuster; Gore did win in 2000 but we just have the wrong guy in the White House. O, and the Supreme Court never handed Bill Clinton his presidency...Bill Clinton actually earned it, unlike Dubya from Texas. Also, Gore only conceded the election because he was a true patriot who worried about the country becoming divided over the election..that is something that a republican would never do; the republicans worry about their place in politics, while the democrats are actually looking out for the country.

2007-10-31 16:04:38 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3 2

You seem like a pretty smart guy...

We will never really "know" what happened...but...

Even YOU must admit the facts...

George W's own brother was Governor of the last and only state in these United States who was having some seriously questionable "ballet count" problems...

...and it just so happens that this One & Only state run by his own brother...is the state that would "decide" who becomes President of These United States...

...and after all is said and done...it sure looks "Damn" suspicious in any light, any way you look at it...

So...

It may not have been as "sinister" as some people believe...I grant you that...but...

Everybody smelled a proverbial "rat" given the facts of the situation...

So...in all honesty...I don't know if the election was "stolen," but I DO believe there was something "funky" going on in Florida...and that "funkiness" was deliberately designed to NOT help Al Gore in any way, shape, or form...

Do the "media math," please...

Denmark wasn't the ONLY place where something rotten this way comes...

2007-10-31 16:25:44 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 6 2

I realize that Bush received more electoral votes, and therefore took the presidency.

What I can't understand is why we allow the electoral college to continue? Regardless of whether or not the results our in my favor or not, I cannot wrap my mind around a system that doesn't award the presidency to the person with the most popular votes.

Think about it, in what other system would someone lose, even though the most amount of people voted for them?

On that note, I will accept that Gore did not win the presidency. But I refuse to overlook the fact that more American citizens voted for Al Gore.

2007-10-31 15:38:20 · answer #7 · answered by gopher646 6 · 7 4

2000 election was when I quit voting democrat. Just the reactions and pure hatred being spewed by some liberal zealots made it a party I could not vote for. Since then the only democrat to ever get my vote was Ted Strickland.

2007-10-31 15:53:12 · answer #8 · answered by archkarat 4 · 3 3

Yeah, I work with a lady who calls Al Gore President Gore, and if there is any hint of anyone willing to talk about it, she jumps up and starts in on her soap box diatribe about how Bush cheated. It's so old. I don't know how many recounts she needs.

2007-10-31 19:25:07 · answer #9 · answered by Princess of the Realm 6 · 2 4

A few things you may not be aware of. Many votes in Florida weren't counted.. and they were of "probable" Democratic voters.

The Supreme Court voted down party lines.

Gore had the chance (as Vice President, and therefor having a voice in the Senate) to continue to investigate and didn't.


Now.. in no way does any of this prove Bush "Stole" the election... but there are just so very many things that make you stop and go "hmmm" about those few weeks... too many to be coincidence..... I doubt I'll know the whole truth about the situation... but I think it's fairly obvious the we in fact DON'T know the whole truth.

2007-10-31 15:40:14 · answer #10 · answered by pip 7 · 7 6

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