Since Iran Kill 240 U.S. Soldiers When They Were Sleeping, What Makes Liberals Think ...?

Question

Iran is a friendly nation that just wants peace?

"Iran responsible for 1983 Marine barracks bombing, judge rules".

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/05/30/iran.barracks.bombing/
Iran financed the terrorist group Hezbollah.

Answer 1

That happened 24 years ago when the US was giving military aid to Iran's enemy during the Iraq-Iran war. You are right, Iran is not a peaceful nation and they shouldn't get the bomb. But you are dregging up some real old stuff here.

Between then and now we gave Iran weapons during the Iran/Contra affair.

Answer 2

I don't think Iran is a "friendly" nation to the U.S. Far from it. Nor do I think the U.S. has been "friendly" to Iran over the last 80 years or so. I am not a Liberal - I have no permanent party affiliation (although I agree with some of the liberal viewpoints) - I just support whatever policies I believe in and whoever I feel the best candidate is and mock everything I find absurd - it's a novel approach I know, but I like it. That being said, from what I have read, I sincerely doubt that most Liberals (or even any Liberals) are deluded enough to believe Iran is feeling friendly towards the US these days either.

What I do think is that two wrongs don't make a right and that someone really intelligent could have figured out a better way to handle this conflict. The way things are going, the only out we are leaving ourselves is genocide. Which would make us just as bad as the people we are fighting.

Answer 3

Well 1 million people marched in Iran in favor of the US after the September 11th attacks. Iranian reformists helped to supply America with intelligence during the invasion of Afghanistan. The Ayatollah condemned terrorism after 9/11. They were trying to cooperate with us until Bush the genius over here called them part of the axis of evil. Given that they were basically verbally targeted would soon be surrounded on 3 sides, it's not too difficult to see why some Iranians may have empowered a hardliner like the current president.

Besides, we helped to kill 1 million Iranians during the Iran-Iraq War... are you saying we are a warlike people that doesn't want peace? I shudder to think what would happen if the Iranians judged us by your standards of judging the Iranians.

Answer 4

Hezbollah never claimed responsibility for that attrocity. I think there are legitimate grounds to debate who was involved because it was very convenient for Israel (which was occupying Beirut at the time and had booby-trapped much of the city) to have it blamed on Hezbollah which only came into existence after the Israeli invasion.

Answer 5

While I am sure that some of thoise Iranians that marched may have had true sympathy for what happened on 9-11, the Iranian mullahs probably "encouraged' that because they KNEW what was coming, and didn't want it coming thier way.

Now, they seem to think they can pull the same crap Saddam did by ignoring the UN {paper tiger} and are counting on the "peace at any price" cowards of the American Left to prevent any action being taken to correct thier erronious path choice.

Silly mullahs ! You are in for a RUDE awakening !

Answer 6

I hope this explains some things to you. Don't take my opinion as being pro-Iran's current government because I am not, I believe Iran's government needs to be removed and a more moderate government must fill its place, but I highly doubt this will happen any time soon. This provides a good explanation of things, so read all of it and read it carefully.

Just look and see what the US did to Iran during the Iran-Iraq war. It was much worse than anything that has happened to the US yet by Iran.

But otherwise, currently, Iran and the United States have very similar goals, to bring a type of peace to Iraq. Iran needs peace in Iraq for its own national security issues, while the US, in my opinion owes some type of peace to the Iraqis. Remember, Iran is currently taking in thousands, if not tens of thousands of shiites into Iran currently.

Now that I have established that, Iran and the US are both going after peace in Iraq in very different ways. Iran, whose government is shiite controlled, is supporting the shiite militias in Iraq to target the Sunnis and anyone who gets in the way, such as US troops. Iran has also started to regularly have talks with Nuri Al Maliki, a shiite who is a fond supporter of Iran. Nuri Al Maliki took refuge in Iran during the Iran-Iraq war.

In my opinion, though, the only reason that Iran is targeting American troops is to get them to say longer (THINK ABOUT THAT ONE) to finish the job, but Iran has stated that they want the US out of Iraq. This is mainly because Iran either believes it can finish the job itself, or make the shiite muslims in Iraq finish the job for them.

The United States would like to bring a peaceful resolution to Iraq and make sure that Iraq becomes a democratic state, with very little ties to its neighbors such as Iran, and stays a strong ally of the US on the war on terror (as I like to put it, War Against Al Qaeda Only)

Now to Hezbollah, Hezbollah is actually not seen as a terrorist group by much of the world, in fact it is seen as a resistance group, just like it is in much of the Middle East.

Hezbollah was formed as a resistance to Israeli invasion in Lebanon shortly after Israel invaded Lebanon. It originally was comprised mostly of Iranian Revolutionary Guards soldiers who were stationed in Lebanon. It slowly morphed into a shiite movement and slowly but surely became a political and miliaristic movement. As you said, Hezbollah (Iran's Revolutionary Guard's soldiers) orchestrated the Marine Barracks Bombing which was a very sad and horrifying day. Hezbollah also slowly moved towards assassinations and other political acts which its leaders at the very beginning said WOULD NOT happen.

Unfortunately, just recently (sort of recent anyways), Hezbollah provoked Israel into battle for 33 days by capturing Israeli soldiers. Hezbollah was deeply criticized but also admired by many Arab states as standing up to Israel when no one else would.

Hezbollah today, supposedly, according to Ban Ki Moon, has weapons that can now reach Tel Aviv which is quite horrible. I hope war never breaks out between Israel and Hezbollah, but, I have a feeling it might again in the future.

Edit: Now I will reference some of the things other people have said. Yes, it is true that the United Stated overthrew the leader of Iran in the 1950s. They replaced the leader with a man named Reza Pahlavi, and was given the title of Shah. This man was pro US intervention, even so far as selling oil and natural gas assets to the United States. He was amazingly corrupt, and at a time when Israel was just getting into power. He supported the nation of Israel agains the Iranian people's wishes. He was not someone the Iranians wanted in charge, he even clamped down on Iranian's rights. In 1979, however, after about 25 years of his rule, the Shiite movement came around and kicked him out of power putting in a new leader, Grand Ayatollah Khomeini. End Edit

Answer 7

I think liberals want "more" peace. The problem is, peace doesn't necessarily mean defense either. Terrorism is a cult that is sweeping the globe, killing at will, regardless how you try to avoid it.

Keep in mind that article is old and the United States is already fighting a war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Our economy is somewhat strained and our army is worn down.

At this point, starting another war woulddn't be good news if we had to fight at three battlefronts. Although, the war is directly related to terrorism.

Answer 8

Probably the same mentality that makes Conservatives think that Saudi Arabia is our ally. They killed over 3000 civilians on 9/11/2001.

Answer 9

Targeting military during a conflict is legal and that judgment is illegal and completely wrong

Answer 10

That's nothing - the USA and Britain illegally overthrew the entire Iranian government in 1953. Pay back's a ***** aint it?