4 World Series champion teams, 1984 - Tigers, 1991 - Twins, 1992 - Blue Jays and 1993 Blue Jays. Jack's career record was: 254-186, with 2,478 K's and a 3.90 ERA. He was a 5 time all-star and WS MVP in 1991. People say that you have to win 300 games, but I he was the most dominant pitcher of the 1980's with 160 wins. Hopefully, he'll get in one day, you agree?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/morrija02.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Morris
2007-10-29 12:54:34 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports ➔ Baseball
Morris was a far better pitcher than Gaylord Perry or Don Sutton, both are in the Hall. His stats although not the best in the Hall were superior to his peers and that is what should determine his entry. How did he stack up against pitchers in his own era? At the top of the heap.
Despite not having 300 wins, his winning percentage was high and I believe you will find his innings pitched were astronomical and would only be rivaled by Clemens, Glavine, Johnson and Maddox who are active pitchers with HOF credentials. He gets my vote. Not bad for a girl, eh?
Oh and for Mr #1 Red Sox fan, Jim Rice and his meager 382 life time HRs playing with Fenway's short porch ain't gettin' in either! And for the Bert "be home" Blyleven fan, Mr. Twinkie and his curve ball ain't gettin' in due to Berties' broadcast booth potty mouth. Lay off the cocktails Bert!
2007-10-29 13:19:35 · answer #1 · answered by Celestine C 2 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Someone has to be The Best Pitcher Not In The Hall, and Morris is right behind Blyleven for this sincere yet dubious honor. Once Bert gets the bronze he rightfully deserves, Jack will be a worthy heir to the title.
Morris didn't have any truly great seasons. He was good, sometimes very good, but never great.
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Ed.: Good point about Gossage, but since he crested 71% in the 2007 voting, I'm certain he gets the plaque in 2008. We'll find out on January 8.
2007-10-29 19:59:56 · answer #2 · answered by Chipmaker Authentic 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Morris lost a lot of respect around baseball in 94. He was signed by the Tribe to help lead a young pitching staff with a lot of talent. He acted like an idiot the entire time there and he also started leaving the team to go back to his farm for the harvest. Had a horrible year and alienated a lot of people. Could be what is hurting his chances as he did a number on his reputation
2007-10-29 20:02:16 · answer #3 · answered by puma103185 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I am a Red Sox fan ,but I remember how Jack Morris used to squash our team. Stats don't tell all the story. Jack Morris was one of the great pitchers of his time. He should certainly be in the Hall of Fame.
2007-10-29 20:36:54 · answer #4 · answered by zen2bop 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
No,
The reason i say this is...He didnt win 300 games or get 3000 strikeouts. Plus his era is a little high. If he had a sub 3 era then id say maybe without the other two prereq's but not with the 3 combined.
2007-10-29 20:01:07 · answer #5 · answered by Swany 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
A little off topic, but the Best Pitcher Not In the Hall isn't Jack Morris, it's gotta be "Goose" Gossage...
2007-10-29 20:03:56 · answer #6 · answered by Brett S 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I agree that he was one of the best pitchers of his day, but I think his HoF credentials are borderline. Certainly there are less deserving players already in, but that 3.90 ERA is a liability. I suspect he'll eventually get in, but not until he's eligible for consideration by the Veteran's Committee. I also agree with Chipmaker that Bert Blyleven is more deserving, despite his (Blyleven's, not Chip's) all-time gopher record.
2007-10-29 20:02:41 · answer #7 · answered by john_holliday_1876 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Lets put it this way.
8 seasons were he had a ERA above 4.00
10 seasons were he had a ERA above 3.70
No seasons were he had a ERA below 3.05
No Cy Young Awards.
K's over 200 3 times out of a 18 year career.
His stats were great. Possibly one of the best pitchers in the 80's, but its not enough. I dont care if you have 65 rings you can shove them up youre butt because the most important thing is the stats.
2007-10-29 20:08:18 · answer #8 · answered by #1 New York Yankees Fan 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Yes without a doubt. Jack Morris was one of the best pitchers of his time. But we can't forget his catcher during his tenure with the Tigers, the great Lance Parrish.
2007-10-29 20:07:01 · answer #9 · answered by Irish_5150 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You guys are full of it, No way Bert Blyelven was a better pitcher then Jack Morris. Don Sutton is in and Jack Morris was better then him also, so eventually he will probably get in but it may take a while.
2007-10-29 20:26:04 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋