Have Liberals Been Successful In Destroying America's Schools?

Question

According to a new report, "1 in 10 schools are 'dropout factories' ".
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071029/ap_on_re_us/dropout_factories
" 'Dropout Factory,' a high school where no more than 60 percent of the students who start as freshmen make it to their senior year. That description fits more than one in 10 high schools across America. "

This is just more proof socialism does not belong in a capitalist society. This year the U.S. government plans to spend over $1.2 trillion on social programs.

The primary function of the U.S. government is not provide welfare. According to the founding fathers of this country, the primary purpose of the U.S. government is maintain a military and the secondary purpose is to regulate commerce.

It is a fact there is more money spent on social programs than on the military. There are federal social programs, state social programs, county social programs, and city social programs. Their costs add up to trillions of dollars yearly.

http://www.ed.gov/about/overview/fed/10facts/edlite-chart.html
"This graph shows that on secondary education (per student) the United States spends more than 17 other nations."

2007 Federal Budget:

Federal social programs (does not include state, county and city social programs)
$394.5 billion (+12.4%) - Medicare
$367.0 billion (+2.0%) - Unemployment and welfare
$276.4 billion (+2.9%) - Medicaid and other health related

Defense budget:
$466.0 billion (+4.0%) - Defense
http://www.answers.com/topic/united-states-federal-budget-2007

Why get an education when they can rely on welfare?

Answer 1

Easy answer is yes.
No tests;it hurts johnny's self esteem
No true grades:mustn't hurt johnny's self esteem
No winners or losers in sports:"Loser" has a bad connotation to it.
Can't read?no problem we mustn't keep you behind your classmates lest we damage your feeling of self worth.
We are becoming a society that rewards mediocrity and punishes success(high taxes!)
Why excel and be something when all you need to do is "try"?

Answer 2

The problem with the information you have provided is that it is extremely incomplete. Nobody could realistically come to any conclusion about this without demographic information to include the economic situation of both the school districts, the students family, the state and county government, and many other factors.

To place the blame on liberals is a classic example of oversimplification. What exactly is a liberal school anyway? There used to be some great vocational programs for students who lacked skills in academics but could learn a trade instead and still get their diploma. That kept a lot of them in school.

Answer 3

So let's see.

The western country THE MOST likely to complain about social responsibility = the US.

The western countries with THE LOWEST rate of dropout (and concordantly highest success rate) are those who spend more on social responsibility.

The fact that more money is spent on social programs than the military is not remarkable. The US spends absolutely obscene amounts on its military, and obscenely small amounts on anything else.

I would have thought being the fervant capitalist you presumably are, that you would be familiar with the term "you get what you pay for"

Answer 4

Oh for Pete's sake, you make me glad I'm not affiliated with ANY political party - the mud-slinging and lies make me sick - why are any of these problems particularly a "liberal" issue - or for that matter a "republican" or "democrat" issue? Our schools are in trouble because of what we do with the money and how they are run. You can't expect to produce first class minds if you don't teach them to reason for themselves, to question assumptions, to challenge authority, to understand logical fallacies and to check several sources (like with respect to your question, for instance). Nor do you create first class minds by excessive regimentation and catering to the lowest common denominator. Come to think of it, isn't NCLB a Bush program?

Myself, I think we don't put enough thought, effort or money into education.

As for medicaid and welfare, yes, I agree those systems need reform - it's good in concept, but is not doing what it was intended to do. There are still children living on the street in the US and in shelters I wouldn't let my dog in - and I have a problem with that.

As for the military, they are getting plenty of money and are the one group that doesn't have to worry about budget cuts.

As for social programs, if you study history you will find that our "founding fathers" for the most part thought they were a great idea - heck, Ben Franklin thought up quite a few of them - like free libraries and volunteer fire fighters. And I like social security - especially since I have already paid for it. All of which social programs I would prefer not to do without. Now empty rabble rousing rhetoric, that I could do without.

Answer 5

Dude, you continue to amaze me with your stupidity. Seriously, I'm starting to wonder if you're a computer, calculating the most perverse things possible, just to frustrate me. Putting money into schools, if anything, is going to make them somewhat better. Better Teachers can be employed, better supplies obtained for classrooms, better buildings, all for your beloved, uneducated, Republican Rednecks. Use common sense.

Answer 6

YES. Google "1963 communist agenda for America" and look at how much DAMAGE has been done.

Then ask yourselves which political party supports the communist agenda.

You're smart people.... figure it out for yourselves.

Answer 7

Sigh...

I started to tap out all of the logical fallacies and primary, secondary and tertiary consequences of these statements.

But then I realized that there just simply aren't enough charts, graphs, logical statements or balanced statistics in existence to convince you of your faulty argumentation, so I'll just leave it here:

Oh well.

Answer 8

I don't know about Liberals but the teachers unions have.

Answer 9

bush is the guy in the White House

school boards are elected by their communities.

what happened to bush's No Child Left Behind plan ?

you should put the blame were it belongs

Answer 10

YES they have! Not all schools but most of them.