7 Questions for Liberals?

Question

I really would like to hear true, common sense, no bullsh*t answers to these questions? Please don't waste either of our time with propaganda crap. Tell me the real reasons you believe in these issues



1. Why is abortion of an innocent life okay, but the death penalty for a convicted murderer isn't? Please view mttu.com and look at what I'm referring to if you want to argue the merits of "life".

2. Why do you believe Al Qaeda isn't in Iraq if they keep claiming to be?

3. With Al Qaeda claiming to be in Iraq, why shouldn't we fight them there?

4. Why do you think Christians are evil, but Muslims are just misunderstood?

5. Why do you claim to be opponents of free speech, but then try stopping "talk" radio from expressing their views in an open market?

6. Since most liberals agree with the "Fairness Doctrine", please explain how that isn't censorship?

7. If you were right and the war was over oil, then why do you drive cars with bumper stickers that say "No Blood for Oil"? For that matter, why would you use anything that uses oil? That would include rubber tires, oil, grease, gasoline, turpentine, plastic, tar, public buses, or anything else that uses oil. Wouldn't you have blood on your hands if you truly believe this?

Answer 1

1) I'll admit, this one is hard to argue. From a scietific standpoint, EARLY abortion is the equivalent of getting a bruise. All it does is kill cells that - at that time - are just another part of the mother. Yes, it can be another person, but at that time, it is same as just killing a couple of cells. So I can see both sides of the arguement. I'm neutral on this one, so I think it isn't the federal government's job to get involved.

2) Initially, OBL hated Suddam. Suddam was viewed as too western (save your laughs. I know, it's ironic). Right now, I don't know if Al Queda is presently in Iraq. If they are, then they are. If not, then not. Al Queda is more or less spread out, so there's bound to be cells everywhere, including Iraq.

3) Hmm...Are the Iraqi and American deaths worth it? We can't be sure on just the word of Al Queda. Iraqis are in the cross-fire. The death count for Americans has surpassed the deaths from the WTC.

4) There are extremists on both sides. True, Islam tends to have more who are also more brutal, but still, they are the extreme minority (who happen to make a big bang). Christians aren't evil. Nor are Muslims. But Islam is greatly misunderstood. When people say Islam is peacefull, it's for a reason. Al Queda does a lot of things that go AGAINST the Koran. Ex: A Jihad is NOT an offensive war. It's either defensive or against somebody who does a wrong against an innocent people. It also means an inner (personal) struggle for peace. Also, martyring oneself to kill another also goes against the preachings of the Koran (but there are other parts in the Quran used to justify it). Most muslims want peace not war. Otherwise they would have died out. It's only the extreme minority that the media portrays as the majority.

5) I like free-speech. I don't care what talk show radios say. Let them say what they want, as long as it's legal. I have the equal right to consider them as idiots.

6) I don't know what the Fairness Doctrine is.

7) I don't think the Iraq war was about oil (exclusivly, at least), but I do think we should lower and eventually stop our oil consumption in the long run (over the next century). At least slow down gas consumption.

Answer 2

As an independent I shall try to answer with reason and logic whether you can deal with it or not.
1.I support all kinds of death abortion, euthanasia (assisted suicide),regular suicide, death penalty ....face it I am for anything that gets the idiots out of my way.
2. I believe they are in Iraq NOW!!! but they were not when the war started.
3.we should have fought them in Afghanistan where they were when the mess started
4. Because religion is a tool used by those in power to keep the dumb masses in line. Christians and Muslims are both weak minded fools for believing in the myths
5. I rather like listening to the talk radio. The things these people say would be quite funny if they didn't actually believe them.
6. I have no idea what this "Fairness Doctrine" of which you speak
7. The war was about a family feud between the bush and the Hussein families.

Answer 3

Ooo I like this question.

1 Abortion is something that women should decide on. It is their body NOT yours. I don't agree with abortion but, I don't feel it is my place to make sure people don't have it.

Now for the death penalty. It doesn't work as a deterrent. Countless studies have shown that people don't care about the penalty during non-premeditated crimes. So, the best you're hoping to come out with is stopping the premeditated ones. I would imagine that most pre-meditated crimes are purpetrated with the intent that the felon won't get caught. Thusly, making sure that penalty is not a factor in the decision of either crime.

Moreover, life in prison sure sounds like it would suck to me. A quick and semi-humane exit or a long drawn out, sodomy filled, experience that ends in the same result. I'm not sure why people are so infatuated with the death penalty when life in prison is the same thing but, you don't have to kill anyone and the person serving that time is subjected to worse punishment.

2. They weren't in Iraq until recently.

3. We should fight them there just, don't use an army. Use a special task force which is small, fast, and able to blend in.

4. I don't think Christians are evil or Muslims are misunderstood. I think both are misunderstood and rely too much on interpretation. Go back to the roots of each religion and they aren't much different. It's the teaching of it that makes one violent and the other aggressive in trying to convert people. I'm Catholic by the way.

5. Shouldn't some of talk radio be subject to the truth if not all of it? A lot of people get their political information from that outlet. If you have government talking points being shouted from 4-5 different venues and they are all identical, people start to believe them. Even when what is being said is a big fat lie.

6. I'm not sure what the Fairness Doctine is.

7. A wise person once said, "oil is worth too much to burn." I drive a car because I have to. I think the industry needs to be revamped to use a different product as a fuel. There are tons of them but, try getting the oil companies to do that. If you can think of a way I'm all ears. I'd personally rather use oil to make fiber optics, new drugs, old drugs, better baseball bats, and stuff like that.

Answer 4

OK, here goes:
1. An abortion is one person's choice, while I am forced to participate in an execution by the fact that I am part of the government that does so.
2. Don't deny Al Qaeda in Iraq, just that they were there before we invaded.
3. Do you believe we can kill all sharks by killing the ones in the Mediterranean? Al Qaeda is a worldwide organization. Are you willing to fight them everywhere, or only in Iraq?
4. As usual, this is a ridiculous generalization. Did it ever occur to you that there are Christians who are liberal?!
5. Have never attempted to stop conservative talk radio, nor am I aware of any law that anyone has attempted to pass to do so. Do I dislike it, of course! It's just the same rhetoric repeated over and over to keep the masses hypnotized so they won't think!
6. Fairness Doctrine insists that everyone be given equal time. How is that censorship?
7. The war is caused by our dependence on foreign oil. I do what I can to lessen that dependence, but I will not withdraw from society just because one sector of it refuses to be reasonable.

I realize this will all come out as gibberish since you can't conceive of a liberal having logical thought processes, but I answered them anyway.

Answer 5

1 i am not pro choice, but i am against the death penalty. it has killed innocent people before. if you look up the statistics, ALL of them are in favor of no death penalty, even cost, because the cost of the appeals, the actual execution, etc., outweighs the cost of simply sending them to life in prison

2 AQ is in iraq, but by the statistics, the war in iraq has increased the terrorism problem. also notice how the terrorists are for the most part only attacking countries that support the iraq war.

3 answer in #2

4 i do not think Christians are evil, but many Muslims are misunderstood

5 i believe you mean "proponents". technically, the Fairness Doctrine does not violate the first amendment. The first amendment guarantees you the right to say what you want, however, the gov very well can demand you say something more. the first just says you can say what you want. this said, i am against the re-institution of the fairness doctrine. but can i ask you a question, why are you against the FD but talk about the supposed political indoctrination going on at PRIVATE universities?

6 again, i do not support it. but i will explain how it isn't censorship: it doesn't keep you from expressing any views, it just makes you say something extra so everything is balanced and people aren't deceived.

7 this question is logically flawed. this would make sense if all of our oil came from iraq, but it does not. also, we had oil before the iraq war. we want things to be like that, even if it means we have to pay a little extra. we shouldn't have to pander to conservatives and not use oil at all because conservatives want Halliburton to make a quick buck.

Answer 6

You asked--

1. I'm in favor of the death penalty.
2. Al Qaeda is in Iraq and other places
3. We should fight them there, not pretend to be helping a country "get on it's feet" for year after year.
4. I don't think christians are evil, just misguided. As all christians are not violent terrorists, neither are all muslims.
5. I am the antithesis of an opponent for free speech. I am not in favor of the "Fairness Doctrine" because it is censorship. I just don't listen to dittohead crap.
6. Answered in number 5 above.
7. The US has other places to drill for oil. Why do you want to be dependent on the Middle East for oil? US society has made using some form of gas-powered vehicle necessary to get around. There are no neighborhood stores anymore, except in New York perhaps.

You wrote out your questions thinking you already know how liberals feel about everything. Now you see that we don't all think the same on issues, like sheep. I hope this has given you some insight.

Answer 7

1) I agreee with the death penalty, but there needs to be a better system to ensure that only the guilty die...I also do not like late term abortions...but defend a woman's right to have an abortion within the first few months.

2) AlQueda is in Iraq. But they wereen't there until we invaded...they are there to attack our men and ruin our world image, it's an opportunity for AlQueda.

3) WE could be attacking Al Queda where they live in a very mobile way instead of putting our men there as targets.

4) Neither a Christian or Muslim is inherently evil. But fanatics can come from any religious group...the reality of life on Earth is less than than the promise of Heaven.

5) I have no probelm with listening to or allowing opinions different from mine to be aired, but I do have a problem with propaganda and lies...these are mostly opinion programs and do not have to supply fact...the real news is boring...this is sensationalism and if it causes people to become devisive through mistruths, it should be contained...whether from the Left or Right...their radio licenses should be at risk for spreading crap.

6) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine it is really hard to implement something that would eliminate the lying I laid out in question 5...I don't know how to fix it, I know it's wrong to show opinion as fact...maybe it should be like on the side of a pack of cigarettes warning that the following is not news and is only opinion

7) I fear that we will fight for oil sooner or later, but that the government and giant oil companies are manipulating us into actions for their benefit alone. Do you really believe that the conflict in Iraq has been a great success and that our efforts will last? I don't and I think very little thought was put into the invasion and that anyone who disagreed and brought up anything that was a problem, was ignored...What benefits do you see in this invasion? It is quite a big deal...we invaded a country that did not pose a serious and imminent threat

Answer 8

1. Why is abortion of an innocent life okay, but the death penalty for a convicted murderer isn't? Please view mttu.com and look at what I'm referring to if you want to argue the merits of "life".

To put it as simply as possible for you, the United States Supreme Court says it's ok.

I support the right to choose, because if a rich Senator found his daughter pregnant, he'd simply fly her out of the country for her abortion. Abortion allowances must be made for cases of rape, incest, and the safety of the mother. Otherwise we will resort to the back alley coat hanger techniques. If neo-cons truely want to end abortion, they should support all means of sex education, and birth control, but sadly they are often against these measure that would prevent unwanted pregnancies.

If you want to solve a problem, it's best to start at it's source...not after the pregnancy is already conceived, which is the republican way of looking at this problem..

I support the death penalty for killers that are guilty beyond all doubt.

2. Why do you believe Al Qaeda isn't in Iraq if they keep claiming to be?

AlQaeda is in Iraq only because we are there. When Saddam was in power, he actually kept AlQaeda in check, and even kept the threat from Iran in check.

Most studies show that AlQaeda is perhaps as little as 15% of the violence in Iraq, with the rest being the sectarian wars between the Iraqi natives, the Sunnuis and the Shiites.

Now that Saddam's gone, the U.S. will end up putting another authority figure in Saddam's place, and eventually Iraq will be right where it started.

3. With Al Qaeda claiming to be in Iraq, why shouldn't we fight them there?

Anbar province...we made a deal with the local warlords and chieftans and basically said...

"We'll give you money and weapons and we won't kill you if you won't kill us, and you can police your own area."

The result...the warlords got rid of the foreigners and any possible AlQaeda element.

The neo-cons like to say this is proof the surge is working, when in reality, this was not a military victory. Anbar Province has shown us a blueprint for success in Iraq...our withdrawal!! Our getting the hell out of the way!

4. Why do you think Christians are evil, but Muslims are just misunderstood?

Dumb question...try again. No liberal believes this. I defy you to show any proof that any single liberal in power today has ever made such a statement.

What is evil is someone who believes God is telling him to attack and invade other nations.

What is evil is telling the Amish that "God speaks through me."

I like what Kerry said..."We should not pray that god is on our side, but that WE are on God's side."

5. Why do you claim to be opponents of free speech, but then try stopping "talk" radio from expressing their views in an open market?

I think you meant the word "proponents?" All Americans should support free speech. Which means having to listen to things you find distasteful....even Rush..LOL.

No one is trying to take away first amendment rights, but when talk show hosts make errors in their statements, whether liberals or conservatives, they deserve to be called on the carpet about their statements.

6. Since most liberals agree with the "Fairness Doctrine", please explain how that isn't censorship?

I don't think it's an issue. As long as both sides have the ability to question their government without being called traitors, then I support all Americans openly questioning their government. It's the true patriotic thing to do...yes, even in a time of war.

7. If you were right and the war was over oil, then why do you drive cars with bumper stickers that say "No Blood for Oil"? For that matter, why would you use anything that uses oil? That would include rubber tires, oil, grease, gasoline, turpentine, plastic, tar, public buses, or anything else that uses oil. Wouldn't you have blood on your hands if you truly believe this?

If we have an oil man in the White House, there's not much the average citizen can do. Utilize mass transit..etc, but most of us need a vehicle to get to work, and the hybrids are out of reach financially at the moment.

JFK inspired America to reach the moon. We need a leader to inspire Americans to seek out alternative fuels...we need a leader to tell the youth of America to study math, sciences, engineering, chemistry etc,,,all for the purpose of weaning ourselves off middle eastern fuel.

Bush could've had a great presidency by taking this approach...instead all he's inspired is fear.

Answer 9

1) The argument is that government should stay out of people's personal choices. Different people have different ideas of when a zygote becomes a person. Government having control over a women's body sounds like big brother to me. I say a women should have a choice within the first trimester.

2) Al Queda wasn't really in Iraq until the U.S. stormed in. Iraq used to be one of the most secular middle eastern countries. Now it isn't.

3) I have strong opinions. Iraq is not one of them. Although I do believe there are more effective ways of fighting terrorism. You have to after the source: Right-wing religious fundamentalism in government and the schools.

4) We don't. The religious right does not represent all christians. Liberals oppose religious fundamentalism of all kinds, be it muslim or christian. There are good and bad people of all faiths.

5) All those right-wing pundits have a right to free speech. People also have a right to criticize them. These guys spend their entire careers attacking the left. Why are you so suprised when we attack back?

6) The fairness doctrine does not censor. It actually increased the number of voices that are heard. This country used to have it in place for a long time, and the world didn't end.

7) I don't think it was just about oil and I don't have any bumper stickers on my car. Just because you believe in having cleaner air and water does not mean you have to go by without any technology.

That's like saying you're not really against abortion unless you kill doctors and blow up abortion clinics.

Answer 10

1.) It isn't, abortion is law because of the woman's movement.
2.) Al Qaeda WAS NOT in Iraq prior to America toppling the Hussein regime.
3.) This misses the issue entirely, invading Iraq was a mistake that brought chaos to the region. Al Qaeda is in many nations, do we invade all 35 nations around the world in which Al Qaeda operatives exist?
4.) This is a silly questions. Liberalism supports individual rights, not atheism as a cause. Our founding fathers were liberal, and, indeed, the name liberalsim came from this generation. It was considered the backbone of American democracy until recently.
5.) I am offended by talk radio because it is shallow. Limbaugh and Hannity do not debate issues, they have a one way conversation directly to listeners, it is political corruption in the worst sort of sense.
6.) Take too long to explain. The Fairness Doctrine was created when radio was all new and powerful in the late 1920's. The feds wanted away to ensure that a broadcaster would not dominate listeners with unobjective political speech-demagoguery.
7.) Because someone feels that invding Iraq was wrong or about oil, does not mean that one can go and live without oil, it would be acting irresponsibly-one must go to work, etc.