Wouldn't you want to live in a nice, peaceful world where everyone is equal?

Question

It would be great, wouldn't it? Eliminate this corrupt system of capitalism and a society of classes and have a world where no one is superior to others and people aren't labeled as such; a world without poverty and a world where you are no different than anyone else. Just another person. No better. No worse. Absolute equality would be ideal, yes? We were are humans, shouldn't we treated as such?

The government would be in change. But they would not take more than their share of profits, the same as everyone else.

I strongly disagree that people are driven by money. People will achieve greatness for the sole sake of accomplishment.

People wouldn't all be lower class if people produce enough stuff. They would be forced to work, otherwise they would be deported or face other similar consequences. Why are some people so rude?

I never said it existed. Unfortunately, it doesn't now, but it will soon once we start a revolution.

Thinking you are better than everyone else is a whole lot better than being treated like you are better than everyone else.
I do not think that all people are greedy. I am sure that if we have the government itself under scrutiny to make sure that resources are distrubuted equally and that they do not take more than their share, it could work. People will work if they are forced to work, thus things will get produced.

I do not want to move to Cuba or North Korea because they are not true communist countries. I do not want to live in a country where you will be punnished for saying anything bad about the leader.

Not everyone has equal oppertunities, thus the poor, in general, will remain poor and the rich will remain rich. Should we pay a doctor more than a janitor because we think he is "better"? He is not. His services may be, but not the individual. If we have other categories to establish superiority, at least it is the people who develop this and they are not given special treatment because of this.

Answer 1

History teaches that when you become indifferent and lose the will to fight someone who has the will to fight will take over

Answer 2

Equality is a nice idea. I think that ultimately what determines whether or not it can be implemented are our surroundings. Due to the constant competition for food, money, clothes (I guess), shelter, etc... complete equality is not achievable. You can always have an asteroid hit your house and then you're not equal anymore.

That said, an egalitarian model is achievable. Lenin may have wanted to make us all equals but, as Ritch said, what rewards the guy who sacrifices and toils to make something of themselves only to see the A hole who bums around and leeches off his parents eventually become equal to them? With this system who would want to challenge themselves to be doctors, lawyers, engineers, or any kind of professional? Why not just sit around and play xbox?

The idea that Lenin may have not struck completely but, may have had in mind I think might have been a society where we all work our butts off to the extent possible for everyone. In that society, everyone is equal on some level. You can't sit around playing video games and collecting government support because if you do, there is some penalty. Strangely, Futurama hit the nail pretty sharply I think. In the year 3000, everyone is required to get a job and keep it or they get hurled into the sun. I think Japan has decent model as well. They manage to reward the hardworking but, there is some government regulation to ensure that people don't run away with all the money without investing in Japan.

Interesting question.

Answer 3

I think it's really ridiculous that people can hear about a system of equality and without poverty and not want that. Have you all been brainwashed by capitalism to the point that you think utopia would be bad? I'm not a communist, because I don't think that that system works, and I don't think utopia is possible, but I still can recognize that it's a nice idea.

It's amazing to see that some people would take a world with starving people living alongside people with disgusting wealth over a society where everyone had enough, if that society were possible. Since when did peace and everyone being fed become a bad idea? Idealistic and unrealistic, yes. But how could it not be a good thing?

Answer 4

Silly communist, weren't you paying attention to Russia and China when they tried this? Russia went bankrupt, and China saw the writing on the wall- they're slowly introducing more and more capitalism, to avoid the same fate.

Capitalism isn't responsible for the system of social hierarchy that we have today- we do that on our own. It's human nature to establish a pecking order in any given group, and communist societies aren't immune to that. Equal money will never guarantee equal social standing because someone will always be taller, stronger, faster, prettier, smarter, braver, or kinder than someone else, and that person will be more respected. Money isn't the only currency that we spend.

The only way for you to find a world as you've described, would be to eradicate the entire human race, and start over with a nation of clones of yourself. Then everyone would be equal for a time, except you, you'd be older and more experienced than anyone else. Fairness isn't always the same as equality.

Be absolutely certain that your actions will achieve your goals before you start any revolutions, or you'll shed a lot of needless blood.

Answer 5

Lenin thought as you do. His was a Utopian ideal. Unfortunately, that Utopian ideal denies the reality of human nature. To begin with, we ARE all equal. The difference is an individual one. For example, I went to college and got a degree. Then I went back and got another. I'm working on a PhD now. I've started two of my own successful businesses filling a need in a vital market. I did this with my own initiative, resources and capital I'd planned and saved for, sacrificing for the future.

Now, compare this to someone who is, in actual fact, my physical and intellectual equal. And yet this individual, rather than applying themselves to their education, disciplining themselves to plan and save for their future, decides that they would rather not. That they'd rather drop out of high school or simply graduate from high school and get a job rather than an education. We need people like that. I respect those folks, but is our contribution equal? Is our initiative and drive equal? Are we equal in what we've accomplished? Are we equal in what we contribute?

No. The problem is not that 'capitalism' is corrupt. Capitalism is not, by nature either corrupt or pure, it simply is. And as such, it's up to every individual to take advantage of it or not.

Bottom line, the only limit on an individual in the United States is the individual themselves. That's it. Everything else, anything else, is simply an excuse.

It sounds to me like you need a little more life's experience, a little more education. There's a reason why Lenin's dream failed. You need to find out why.

Answer 6

JJ, you've been pushing this crap all day. Either you are a troll or so uneducated about communism you can't see how silly you look.
Either a person is for communism or they aren't. You're not going to change the world by advertising on YA.
I recommend you go by a ticket to Cuba or N Korea and set up an appointment with either of the kooks that run those countries and see what they think you can do to help.
Name me ONE country that has successfully obtained the nice peaceful existence you claim communism is.

Answer 7

I don't believe in Utopia, but I do enjoy examining theoretical Utopias to find the critical flaws that make them dystopian.

For instance, a world of absolute equality removes all rewards for merit, any recognition of accomplishment - and, then, what is there to strive for. Pesonal satisfaction? That's just you thinking you're better than everyone else. ;)

Though the egalitarian ideal is apealing, it is, ultimately, unrealistic and childish. It denies not only actual human nature as imperically observed throughout history, but also simple logic.

Not that a society can't strive to be more egalitarian, just that the perfection of that idea is unattainable, and trying to force it can bring about conditions far worse than mere unequal distribution of resources.

Answer 8

The place you are speaking of is called Utopia, and it does not exist. Only in Heaven and fairy tales does this way of life exist. You are a dreamer. Do what you can to make the world a better place. I admire your optimism, but you are also very naive to think such a thing is possible. Don't you think if it were, that we would already be living in it? After all, doesn't everyone desire the same thing? Happiness for all.

Answer 9

Wow. What a wonderful utopia that is. Hmmm. No more three class system? That would mean we would all be lower class.
Gee.
Great thought.
I bet your head echoes when you think. Doesn't it?
I hope reincarnation is real so you can come back as an insect. Good Luck!!

Answer 10

I BELIEVE the strength of our nation lies with the individual and that each person’s dignity, freedom, ability and responsibility must be honored.
I BELIEVE in equal rights, equal justice and equal opportunity for all, regardless of race, creed, sex, age or disability.
I BELIEVE free enterprise and encouraging individual initiative have brought this nation opportunity, economic growth and prosperity.
I BELIEVE government must practice fiscal responsibility and allow individuals to keep more of the money they earn.
I BELIEVE the proper role of government is to provide for the people only those critical functions that cannot be performed by individuals or private organizations and that the best government is that which governs least.
I BELIEVE the most effective, responsible and responsive government is government closest to the people.
I BELIEVE Americans must retain the principles that have made us strong while developing new and innovative ideas to meet the challenges of changing times.
I BELIEVE Americans value and should preserve our national strength and pride while working to extend peace, freedom and human rights throughout the world.
FINALLY, I believe the Republican Party is the best vehicle for translating these ideals into positive and successful principles of government.