Are Bush's reasons for vetoing the SCHIP bill getting less reasonable?

Question

"The White House said Thursday that Bush will veto the bill if it reaches him because it does too little to enroll low-income families ahead of those slightly better off, and because it includes a tax hike -- in this case, on tobacco."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071025/ap_on_go_co/children_s_health;_ylt=AsYEVVimj1ED7OEuaLgQonys0NUE

Answer 1

he never had any reasonable objections, it's always been about creating the impression that the democratic congress can't get any legislation passed (which is to be accomplished by vetoing everything they do)

Answer 2

I'd be better off quitting my job, going on welfare, section 8, HEAP, Wick, and getting free health care because as of right now the government takes half of my income. I work 60+ hours, run a business in Upstate NY (regulation nightmare), and my tax bill is more than my mortgage, car payment, health Ins., and all my utilities combined. Sure seems like we already have a socialistic society. My net income has barely changed despite a growth in gross income. The idiots on here who talk about tax increases have no idea what's coming. Wait until you go out and try to make a life for yourself by owning a business. We pay most of the taxes.

Answer 3

This was never intended to be a low-income proposal.
In fact its tied to a times-poverty-level income need.
Its for the children whose parents work and no longer get coverage through their jobs as those jobs no longer offer healthcare as a benefit. Individual insurance is higher than group insurance and many working people can't afford that.
Low income children are included in Medicaid and that has not changed for them.

Ken S, its tied to the cost of living in three states with $20,000 for a family of four is considered poverty level where the costs are highest, however that is now irrelevant as that has been lowered, and if you are on your parents insurance right now, you are covered till 19 if you are a full time student, that would make sense since students don't usually have the money for their own insurance.
You can hike taxes on cigarettes till they choke, at least then smokers would be doing something constructive with the money they light up and burn now.
It does address the need of those children whose ranks have increased over the last four years, and the thirty-five billion is over five years.

Answer 4

Our President was never a man of reason. The bill will include children of working poor who are paying more every month just to live. You can't say much about smokers, because you will always have them, and if this made them stop smoking, it would be worth more tax. Wait till down the road when the war money (borrowed) comes due and say you won't get a tax raise.

Answer 5

Yes they are, he is grasping for a logical explanation where none exists when spending the BILLIONS of dollars on the war in Iraq. He has no credibility and most people are very tired of listening to the babbling, double talking, duplicitous B.S. that flows so freely from his pie hole.

Answer 6

Anyone that makes$ 60 to$ 80 thousand a year they can afford to pay Their own children's health care

Answer 7

SCHIP was not meant for poor people. SCHIP is meant for people who make decent money but, cannot afford health care for their children. The whole question and premise is wrong. So, to answer this particular question, no because zero multiplied by zero is still zero and that's how much sense all of that makes.

Answer 8

I still want to know why the dem's think children are between the ages of 18-25 and poverty is 80 grand a year.

Answer 9

Yes, and considering how completely unreasonable his initial reasons were, it's actually pretty impressive that he's managing to be even more unreasonable now.

Answer 10

Bush is always unreasonable because he's dumb.
As a friend of mine says, he's proof that a little education is dangerous.

Poor families are already receiving free or reduced cost health care while the working poor cannot afford to pay for it.

Does it make sense for the lowest paid employees to pay the highest costs for health care? When I worked in retail, the costs for my health care plan were outrageous.
It's the same logic used to give the poorest people the highest rates when it comes to loans. Someone else is profiting for their situation. We live in a sick and twisted country if they think that's ok. They can justify trust fund babies.

Answer 11

Bush does not want to increase the program by 35 billion dollars,.....