Feminists & Anti feminists - what do you concede to the other side? Do they have a point?

Answer 1

I can agree with the concept of equal treatment (opportunity, not outcome) but feminism has gone so far beyond 'equal' that "Jim Crow for men" is a basic fact of life today, only those against whom it is being used have changed from blacks to men.

Even the Nazis has some points but I agree with the stance of neither them nor feminism and for the same reasons.

Answer 2

Although I don't really fit into either category, I see good and bad in both sides.
The feminists who truely want equality and do not blame and man-hate are noble (and necessary) and should continue with their endeavors.
The anti-feminists do not really want to hold women down, they just don't want to be stepped on by extremist superiority driven feminists.

If you take the extremists out of the equation, what the feminists, masculinists, and equalists want is all the same. The problem (as is common in our society) is that the few loud and ridiculous extremists get more coverage and are more vocal so the perception is that the whole group feel the same. That is why I refrain from labeling myself as anything. that way, I am judged for my own opinion -not some lunatics.

Answer 3

"Feminists & Anti feminists - what do you concede to the other side? Do they have a point?"
I'm a masculist and an equalist and I do examine what feminists (using the term loosely) say, even though most seem to have contradictory ideas of what feminism is. Those who repeatedly say things like "ugh. all men are pigs" or "throw stones at boys" I have no time for.

[indecypherable] You said "... but I have no clue how taking away women's rights will solve that" - Who said anything about taking away women's rights? Where did you get that from?

Answer 4

I concede to neither anti feminists nor feminist extremists.

Feminism has given women the right to vote and done a lot to correct misogynist bias in law, if not in culture. At the same time, I'm not the sort of person who hates all men on the basis of sex, so I'm not comfortable with other feminists' extreme rhetoric.

Answer 5

I will concede that anti-feminists make a point when they say that feminism appears to have lost its way. There are too many women claiming to be feminists who want all the rights with none of the responsibility.

Answer 6

Why ought to your spouse be dragged into the twenty first century whilst it relatively is obvious you're nevertheless in the nineteenth with an appropriate that became purported by utilising radical adult adult males. in certainty, why ought to she be dragged in any respect? Why do you think of you may command her? You needless to say do no longer relatively have confidence in woman equality or you does not be spouting all this chauvinism disguised as liberality. BTW-Why is this in politics? shouldn't that is in gender study or women human beings's subject concerns or marriage/divorce?

Answer 7

People that think modern feminism is about equality need to research modern feminism.

People that think men's rights activists want to take women's rights away & revert to a slanted legal system they need to research MRAs.

I am a men's rights activist. I want actual equality.

I don't want men to have more rights or special treatment from our laws & I want the exact same thing for women.

Mainstream feminism fights to keep SLANTED laws in place & fights to enact new slanted laws.

Being against this does not mean I want to remove women's right to vote or remove any laws that apply evenly to both men & women.

I support "I" feminists & "equity" feminists. They've had to branch off from the mainstream due to the sexism, bigotry, & need for special treatment now found in the movement.

The only thing I support about mainstream feminism in 2007 is the right to choose. No one should be able to tell a woman what to do with her body.

The rest is steeped in anti-male bias, false & misleading statistics, & Marxist principles.

Research this. You will see.

EDIT:

ren has a good point about labeling... which prompted me to add:

I'm an MRA, but if the mainstream of the movement turned into something where "equality" was no longer the focus & MRAs fought for privilege within our laws & there were anti-female & sexist principles perpetuated on a routine basis...

I'd lose the MRA tag double quick.

Answer 8

First, Sushi... do you know the meaning of the word concede?

Second, yes. I am bothered by the contradiction between the strong woman and the perpetual victim as much as they are if not more so.

Answer 9

I think feminists are just craving for attention on this forum. Most of them are so insecure. Just some of them.

Answer 10

I agree that more men die on the job than women.

But I have no clue how taking away women's rights will solve that.

I agree that women usually get custody of children in case of divorce.

But I have no clue how reverting to "traditional" (i.e. sexist) gender roles will solve that problem. In fact, it will worsen it.

See, the thing is with anti-feminists... they do make good points, but they don't propose good solutions. Their answer for everything is to turn back the clock, when that isn't going to solve anything. Their solution is their cause, and they use their arguments to enforce their position, but the two never really connect.