Who does the land of Israel/Palestine belong to?

Question

Who does the land of Israel/Palestine belong to? The Jews or the Arabs? And why?

Both have legitimate claims, but what is the best and most feasible solution for the problem? And who has the more logical claim to the land if there has to be sole propriety?

Is the Two-State Solution feasible, given the desires and demands of the very nature of the argument?

Will there ever be peace?

Answer 1

It is kind of funny-sad to me that after ~ 60 years and several generations, the Palestinians are still sitting in refugee camps - not even other Arabs, who have both the wealth and the space, have so much as offered them a single square inch or a single unit of whatever currency they use there.

That says something to me that maybe even their brethren don't believe their claims.

Mainly their strategy has been to grow their population in squalid conditions and hope the world takes pity on them.

There is little to no effort to use education to build wealth, a strategy that has worked for countless refugee peoples in the same era that the Palestinians have sat still.

What other countries have been forced to return land in exchange for peace, especially land that they captured in multiple wars where they were attacked?

I don't know of any do you?

Still, Israel has already returned the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt long ago in exchange. that land is both adjacent to Israel and many times the size of Israel, and mostly empty.

Have the Palestinians approached Egypt about a diplomatic solution where they could move there? If so, I haven't heard of it and nothing has come of it.

Why not? Desert? So was most of Israel before the the Palestinians left.

My own feeling is that if the Palestinians moved into an area and acted as responsible world citizens for a while, then most that has happened before would be forgiven and nearly unfettered access to Jerusalem is possible . I would love to see the Palestinians adopt German and Japanese reconstruction as a model.

But at the rate they are going, even the North Koreans will re-unify and be re-integrated into the world community before the Palestinians do one thing to help their own standing in the world or even Arab community.

And that is not funny-sad to me, it is just plain sad.

Answer 2

if you listen to the Arabs there is only one solution(the same as their WWII allies the Nazis, kill all the Jews) push the Israelis into the sea.they lost the wars in 48,53,67,73 and still hold to this disgusting belief.I do not know if it's just their leaders or is it the majority of the Palestinian people that want to kill.But i do know that they rejected a two state solution in 1999 and started the intifada instead.
As to if there will ever be a peace, one day when the Arabs finally get tired of killing people sure there will be a peace after all the Arabs and Jews lived in peace for a few hundred years before the present trouble.
the claims to the land are now irrelevant the state of Israel exists with a vibrant economy,democratic governance,and a strong military ,and the Arabs have nothing (of their own choosing)both started at the same time and one is free and prosperous and the other is just waiting for handouts. the other Arabs states seen to want it this way as they want let the Palestinian rot in camps and give them handout but not enough to live decently and blame the Israeli for their mess

Answer 3

Jews. Some will argue that Jews, coming out of Egypt, took Palestine away from Arabs. What they are forgetting to mention, conveniently for them, is that the Jews were taken away from "Palestine" as slaves in the first place. If they hadn't been removed from the land, they wouldn't have had to return.

Go back to the earliest recorded history and its Jews sitting in "Palestine."

A Two-State solution is possibly feasible. We'll have to wait and see on that one. But there's enough there to at least be optimistic about.

There will not be peace as long as Iran and Syria are exporting terrorism and proxy wars. That simple. As for the other countries, they are all pretty much chilled right now. You don't hear Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya or Saudi Arabia calling for the destruction of Israel anymore. People don't realize how big of a step that is. You basically have two antagonizers left, Iran and Syria.

Answer 4

The simple Biblical and legal answer is Israel. After WW1 the Turks were forced by the big three to give it up. England carved it up. the Balfour Declaration gave Isreal what is now modern day Israel and Jordan. Unfortunately the British were buddies with the guy they gave Saudia Arabia to and he ask them to give his cousin 2/3 rds of Israels land (Palestine).

Thus Jordan was formed. Jordan is about 70% Palestinian. So Isreal got shafted again and only got the little bit of land they have now. The land that England set up for Israel was called PALESTINE.

The country was not the paradise it is now and even Mark Twain said it was a wasteland. Anyway when the Zionist government had run out the English they decided to form Israel, their own country. Also during that time the Arabs and Jews were having shooting matches. From what I have read the Arabs were doing more evil stuff.

The day Israel annnounced it would be a country all the arab countries and Eygpt attacked. Even though out numbered and no standing army the new country of Israel won.

Before they were attacked the Arabs told the Arabs living with the Jews to leave and after they had driven them into the sea they could return. Many did leave, but about 2,000,000 Arabs are citizens of Israel today, but the ones that pulled out and waited for them to be destroyed where not allowed to return.

The PLO was formed and tried to overthrown the king of Jordan and they were run out of Jordan and ended up in Lebanon and destroyed it also. Lebanon used to be the banking center for all of the Arabs and like the French Rivera. So Yesser Arafat hit on this "palestianian" thing and the liberal media ran with it.

At first I was confused as Palestine was the Jewish state and could not understand why Jews would not want to live with Jews. Take care.

One other think is that those people are suffering. It's not like over here and much unemployment. Ones I know they came here said PLO told them to quit business with the Jews or else. I said why they didn't go to the police and they told me PLO was police and that it is not unusual for people to be taken out of their homes at night and shot in the head and left in the street as an example.

Anyway everybody including us gives billions to the PLO and they have stolen it and give very little to the people. Also you mayask why haven't their brothers helped, well they are a thorn in the side of Israel, with the liberal media. Ishael's kin will "be wild as an ...".

Answer 5

The Jews were there first, the Ottoman Empire sided wrong in WWI, the spoils of war go to the victor, The Brits were given control, the UN created Israel.

In the early 1900's European Jews began BUYING land from the then owners. Many (owners) I would assume were Muslim.
By the 1920's the seeds of the PLO were planted when Egyptian Yasser Arafat was taught to hate by his uncle.

Now they are jealous as those lowly Jews built a real Country while they stood in the street firing AK's in the air screaming "Pity us, we are morons and do not know what to do!" and still don't.

Now Fatah and Hamas kill each other and blame everyone but themselves. They are too stupid to ever stop fighting.

Answer 6

I doubt there will ever be peace.

I read Jerusalem Countdown by John Hagee and although I don't agree with everything he says, there is one thing I found interesting. The author explains that (I'm paraphrasing)...

1. God promised Israel to the Jews.
2. Allah promised Muslims that they would rule over the world.

These two assertions are incompatible. If the Jews keep their land, then Allah is wrong. If the Muslims take control, then God is wrong. Neither side will concede the land to the other nor even compromise to share the land. No one wants to believe their god is wrong.

Answer 7

It doesn't belong to the jews or the arabs.

The land of Israel was purchased from the British by the UN -- and was about 25%-30% of the territory -- the rest went to form the country of Jordan and the rest of the Palestine area.

The nation of Isreal then opened itself up to the Jewish faith -- but didn't kick anyone out of their homes -- they just created new habitable land out of previously unoccupied desert regions. Anyone who had lived in the region still could -- just now under the laws of the nation of Israel, rather than under British rule.

Then, several times, the nation of Israel was attacked by its neighbors -- and during some of those wars, Israel seized and held land that had belonged to their attackers -- the way countries have held war-spoils for thousands of years.

Answer 8

what about a 3 state claim , Christan's are there also , they owned it also.

what about the fact of take your 2 hands put them together , that's the size of the Arab/Persian held land , now look at one thumb , that's the size of Israel in comparison.

don't you think they can make just a little room for the Jew.

i don't really care who says who owns it , i doesn't really affect me that much.
but it was set aside for the Jews let them have it there is plenty of room around in the area to make compromises for all of them. after all most of the middle east was divided up into country's in this century ,so its not like there is that much tradition for all to claim .

just my opinion

Answer 9

the land of Palestine original was inhabited by the Jewish people, they were then kicked out then the Palestinian people settled there. after world war 2 the country of Israel was set up and any Palestinians were forced off there land. i dint agree with the way that Israel forced people off there land where they have been living for hundreds of years, in effect repeating the wrongs that were committed on the Jewish people.

it is true that both have legitimate claims, i believe the best solution is for Israel to build up the Palestinian areas so they have jobs and a future, this will break down the barriers between the two peoples and reduce hostility's because invading the country doesn't work it just creates more extremists.

Answer 10

You are wrong, both do not have claims to the land only the Israelis do. Here's a little history lesson for you. In the first century when the Jews of Israel revolted against the Romans, the Romans came down hard and drove the Jews out and creating a totally new state, Palestine. The Romans owned Palestine and then when Rome fell the Ottoman Empire took over Palestine and held the state until its demise and then the British Empire ruled over it. After WWII, in 1948, the British gave the land, now this is the land they owned, for the expressed purpose of creating a new Jewish state. At no time was Palestine a free state. They never had self rule and have never controled that land. So as you see the land belong to the Israelis.